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Typical quote: "Satan's reward is hell fire, hot hot hot, just ask the rich man in Luke 16:19-24" - FoamingFundy

Below is a transcript of channel 103 chat. Channel 103 is a place where religion is discussed, (atheists battle the Christians). (I am eadon-com by the way.)

Spearfish: I FIND GOD INNOCENT OF SANCTIONING STUPID CHRISTIAN JACKASSES TO SPEAK IN HIS NAME!!!!

Madpole: I do not wish anybody to leave in hell - there is no reason for it all at all! The paradise is here - in front of our eyes - but very few are brave enough to accept it - Jesus said it and so did Buddha!

FoamingFundy: ok what's your present religion

Madpole: words are dangerous and I hate them - they never express what I think and feel. I have no present religion - my current religion is "seeking for one". I am catholic by birth but You showed me bad ways of Catholism - which I knew anyway.... So I am looking for something better, more Universal, I want to be a Servant to God and so to everybody else. Is that bad FoamingFundy? Am I on the wrong track again ?

FoamingFundy: do you except the Holy Bible in its entirety? and as the B.I.B.L.E. = basic instructions before leaving earth?

Madpole: I have not read it yet - forgive me for my ignorance - I cannot not accept something I have not read - but I would like to!

FoamingFundy: ok start by first of all reading the first 4-gospels, Matt. Mark, Luke, and St. Johns, find your self a good church that teaches the bible to its fullest.

Madpole: I know passages from it - which I agree with - but I do not Wholy Bible as a Whole!

FoamingFundy: then avoid the Dark Side Crew interlectuals [sic] of ICC such as eadon, spearfish, WarPriest, etc.

eadon-com: "interlectuals"?

Spearfish: he has a hard enough time chewing on an alfalfa stalk, we can't expect him to SPELL too

eadon-com: warning to madpole Matthew is utter BS.

Spearfish: don't worry god, humans will do a lot lot lot better than these christian morons are doing...and the rest of us won't insult you with pure STUPIDITY like the bible. Of course, the ignorant barbarians who wrote the bible must be forgiven. They didn't know any better

Madpole: FoamingFundy - I know about intellectuals and always avoided them as such -but I try to be understanding as well.. is that bad? Or shall I read a Bible first ?

Spearfish: however modern people thumping such utter stupidity must be looked at very very closely

FoamingFundy: read the Bible first, it will thoroughly teach you about these blood sucking satanic leaches of a so called friend that you now presently entertain with

Madpole: No - FoamingFundy has a good point - Intellectuals are simply intellectuals. Interlectuals are Inter-intellectuals - simple!

eadon-com: er, yes madpole, You are right, as a non-interlectual :)

Madpole: OK FoamingFundy- but then You will have to be patient - I will hopefully get back to You in few months time!

Spearfish: reading the bible is terrific, because it becomes obvious at first glance that it is utter moronic crap. Good suggestion FoamingFundy

Madpole: Have You read it in its ORIGINAL LANGUAGE Spearfish? Why are You interpreting somebody else's interpretation ? And don't forget that Jesus HAS NOT written a Bible - some other people did!

Spearfish: you mean the original language in which the word "virgin" as in virgin Mary is a mistranslation of young woman?

Madpole: Which kind of proves your point that there is no point in reading it - Arghhhh!

FoamingFundy: the dark-side crew are simply edumacated-interlectual doomed rebel, that are seeking truth, without any desire for sacrifice, but serving Jesus will be demanding

eadon-com: lol FoamingFundy

FoamingFundy: eadon-com lol enjoy but I will get the last laugh in eternity

eadon-com: lol

Madpole: FoamingFundy- don't get offended - but will You laugh in eadon's face or just laugh ? Will You be able to say - "Ha - I have told You, didn't I ?" or am I just Earthy soul who gets everything wrong again?

FoamingFundy: when God calls for the Christians to begin judgement, I'll ask for the ICC dark-side crew

Madpole: and they (arrghh - not me hopefully) will have to stand in front of You ? Will You be naked ?

FoamingFundy: no I'll have on a white rob of righteousness, but the dark-side crew if they don't repent and get saved will be quite naked

PlanetEarth: Good play on words there FoamingFundy "white 'rob' of righteousness'

Madpole: what if they DO repent ? Will they be forgiven ?

FoamingFundy: then they can be saved, salvation is for alllllllllllllll

Spearfish: serving Jesus will be demanding all right....he likes it up the bung shoot

PopePious: When Spearfish gets muzzled [temporarily banned from making tells to the chat channel by the administrators] again he will blame 1) Himself or 2) Everybody else?

PlanetEarth: I choose the latter PopePious

eadon-com: if I were spearfish I would definitely point the finger of blame at an administrator, the one who typed "+muffle spearfish" :)

PlanetEarth: +muff Spearfish

PrayingMattress: +mutt spearfish

FoamingFundy: + muff the dark-side crew

PlanetEarth: +muffdive... hmm let me think... Pamela Anderson

Spearfish: I don't blame these chumps for not wanting to hear some truth, they are instructed to go deaf, dumb and blind by their idiotic creed whenever truth rears it's ugly head

Spearfish: it's all mapped out in incredible detail in "The True Believer" by Hoffer

PopePious: Don't they normally muzzle dogs?

eadon-com: let slip the dogs of war! - Shakespeare

PopePious: Ah yes, the uneducated, unemployed author.

PrayingMattress: yeh who you going to believe Hoffer or God

PlanetEarth: Who let the Dogs out.

PlanetEarth: WOOF.... WOOF... WOOOF WOOOF

PopePious: I will take God at his word, not some longshoreman.

Spearfish: isn't a longshoreman a step up from a fisherman?

Spearfish: *touche'*

Madpole: why can't we just repent later and be saved anyway ?

FoamingFundy: I you don't behave now, then you won't behave in Heaven , then it will get polluted just as well as the earth has

PrayingMattress: what's the benefit of waiting?

Madpole: the best things come to those who wait ?

FoamingFundy: your conversion of behavior change, greatly shows your faith in God concerning His promises of Wrath to Come. on all rebels and anti-christ

Madpole: I am not sure if You are talking to me FoamingFundy- and I don't understand anyway!

FoamingFundy: when we obey God, that show, that we believe in His promises, both the negative ones and the positive ones

eadon-com: so god is negative?

FoamingFundy: no but all of God promises aren't promise of love and joy

eadon-com: isn't that another way of saying god is satan?

eadon-com: I thought, silly though I may have been to allude and subscribe to such misconceptions, that god was good!

Spearfish: I hear that Jesus was hung like a water moose

FoamingFundy: God is good, but God is justice also, and fair, and a rewarder of both the doers of good and evil

Spearfish: golly, nice fairy tale!

Madpole: so I have to try 10 times to get in...

eadon-com: rewarder of the ass lickers and the yes men

Spearfish: I like the robotic recitation too!

PlanetEarth: God it good, God is great. Let us thank him for this plate.

eadon-com: suck up to geeeeeeeeeeesssssssssuussssss dudes

FoamingFundy: yes it give in to Jesus or satannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

PopePious: The integrity of the upright shall guide them, but the perverseness of transgressors shall destroy them. Proverbs 11:3

Spearfish: Too bad PopeDick is impotent with his stupid fairy tale, because you KNOW his true colors are to want nothing more than to exact the horrible punishment (ad baculum) which he ascribes to "god"

eadon-com: the integrity of the arslickers shall delusion them but the pervertishness of the transvestites shall bugger them pervs 666

FoamingFundy: Satan's reward is hell fire, hot hot hot, just ask the rich man in Luke 16:19-24

eadon-com: how rich are you, FoamingFundy?

FoamingFundy: I'm very rich because of Jesus

eadon-com: do YOU have money FoamingFundy?

FoamingFundy: I have more than money Satan's son

eadon-com: you are VERY RICH???? oh dear....... You have as much chance as reaching heaven as a camel does of passing through the eye of the needle!

Spearfish: rofl

Spearfish: nor does his faith equal that of a mustard seed

eadon-com: you are damned FoamingFundy! bad luck old chap.

Spearfish: otherwise we could designate a mountain for him to move

eadon-com: According to Matthew, Jesus says if you are VERY RICH???? You have as much chance as reaching heaven as a camel does of passing through the eye of the needle!

FoamingFundy: it never said that it was impossible for a rich man to go to heaven only that it was harder for them, if they trust in their money, eadon-com your pretty good at half quotes

eadon-com: see you in hell, FoamingFundy

eadon-com: see you in hell hell hell and we shall smoke over Satan's BBQ together and sing the lords praises

eadon-com: do you know, FoamingFundy, what Jesus said to the rich chap in Matthew?

eadon-com: do you know what Jesus said?

eadon-com: think about it, think about it....

PrayingMattress: God can, and does give prosperity to some of his children

eadon-com: I can teach you, Sir, what Jesus said to the rich chap, and thee be damned not to heed Jesus' wise counsel

eadon-com: you see, FoamingFundy, Jesus decreed that the rich man should give unto the poor his house and all of his possessions

FoamingFundy: ok eadon give me your passage, and not from the satanic bible

Madpole: Is "passage" a rude word ?

eadon-com: ALL of his possessions mind you, and only then, according to the contradiction-free bible, shall he be granted access to the kingdom of heaven

FoamingFundy: give me your passage, eadon, for Jesus dealt with the areas of the rich on more than one occasion, so give me of the one your considering

eadon-com: you're not saying, are you, that you have never read Matthew, as I have?

FoamingFundy: that's good eadon, you quote some of the bible well, you know and understand that which benefits you, don't all the other portions yet count against you to

eadon-com: not at all, FoamingFundy, because I don't subscribe to it as a tome of truth

FoamingFundy: no just give me , oh you don't know the passage

eadon-com: I do know the passage FoamingFundy. This is why I have described it to you. Do you deny it???

eadon-com: or do you chose to be disobedient to the teachings of christ? Convenient eh?

FoamingFundy: that was a case scenario, of one particular rich man, and his personal problem that he had within, Because Jesus knows all, but in another passage Jesus gives the standard for all rich people, so give the passage that you prefer

PopePious: These mockers are horrible exegetes.

PrayingMattress: When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus. Matthew 27:57

eadon-com: I prefer the passage in Matthew I have presented to you , FoamingFundy

Spearfish: my, what a perfectly STUPID fairy tale, recited by terrified credulous morons!

FoamingFundy: rich people can go to heaven, so long a they lord over their money and not allow their money to lord over them

Kolton: I wish I could lord over some money

FoamingFundy: no sir, another passage deals with the rich, need I get it?

eadon-com: erm no, FoamingFundy, you have about as much chance of squeezing through the gates of heaven as a camel does as passing through the eye of the needle

Madpole: Money is a SIN Brother Kolton!

Kolton: bring on the SIN!

eadon-com: lets face it FoamingFundy, we will all drink vodka in hell

FoamingFundy: the love of money is a sin madpole.

Spearfish: my what interesting creed

Spearfish: my what interesting dogma

Spearfish: my what interesting doctrine

Spearfish: my what interesting crap

PrayingMattress: Matthew 19:23 Christ does not say that a rich man could not be saved (v. 26), but only that, for him, it is more difficult, since such a person seldom senses his personal need as readily as a poorer man does. The blinded just do not understand, they like to nit pik

eadon-com: not true PrayingMattress, I repeat, according to the bible, Jesus said that a rich man has less chance of being sanctioned into heaven as a camel does of squeezing itself through the eye of the needle

FoamingFundy: ok sorry, well the love of money is the root of allllllllllllll evil

eadon-com: and FoamingFundy loves to tell us how contradiction free the bible is!

FoamingFundy: that's not a contradiction, one rich man can be at another level of different degree of greed over another grow-up, professing themselves to be wise they became fools

Kolton: actually, I don't think money has anything at all to do with it. It's the power in one's heart... not $$$$

PrayingMattress: Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. your quote

PrayingMattress: it is hard does not say give away all of your money

eadon-com: In Matthew, Jesus commanded a rich fellow to give away all of his house and possessions to the poor so that he may gain entry to heaven

PrayingMattress: because a rich man is more concerned with his money, then salvation from God

eadon-com: quite PrayingMattress and I would say that FoamingFundy fits that description

FoamingFundy: no a rich man can be, not is PrayingMattress

PopePious: Hey dark crew.... leave the exegetical work to those who are qualified. Thanks.

FoamingFundy: ok so to be rich isn't' a sin, but to allow your riches to lead you into sin is the problem, its not that difficult dark-side crew, sometime you'll will just have to except some of the simple matters of life, everything can be edumacate stuffes , hehehehehe

eadon-com: erm no, FoamingFundy, you have about as much chance of squeezing through the gates of heaven as a camel does as passing through the eye of the needle

eadon-com: not true PrayingMattress, I repeat, in Matthew, Jesus said that a rich man has less chance of being sanctioned into heaven as a camel does of squeezing itself through the eye of the needle

PrayingMattress: money can buy a lot of sin

FoamingFundy: GREED, HATE, LIES, ALL OF THE SOAPS THAT YOU WATCH DAILY, THEY'LL SO YOU WHAT THE SIN OF MONEY IS\

eadon-com: I agree with FoamingFundy about the soaps :)

PrayingMattress: When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, Then who can be saved? 26 And looking at them Jesus said to them, With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible. the verses following your camel quote

Spearfish: WASH ME IN DE' LYE SOAP OF DE' LAWD'S MILK TEATY TEAT!!!!

FoamingFundy: and eadon you'll have to eat the whole roll of the Bible not pick and choose your preferences, the good and the bad



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