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GodSnorter:
I believe ALL life is precious
KSose:
It isn't.
GodSnorter:
so we must LIVE the life we have rather than
waste it
KSose:
It is easily replaceable.
Madpole:
It is people who are around the dying person
who have a BIG PROBLEM - not the dying person
him/her/self. I have witnessed it on many occasions.
People are happy to die... but other people
make their death an uncomfortable experience
GodSnorter:
I believe fulfilment is the search for fulfilment,
the meaning of life is the SEARCH for the meaning
of life
WickedMerlin:
the meaning of life is life!
eadon-com:
no matter what you do fulfilment never arrives.
KSose:
Well, if fulfilment keeps you occupied, good.
Just be back by 9:00 PM !
GodSnorter:
and if I were to die today, I would not have
had time to search for meaning... I would, in
that way, die before my time...
WickedMerlin:
not god, not finding meaning but living!!
eadon-com:
the journey is the point and not the destination
eh GodSnorter? I'm not so sure. Sex is better
than the build up perhaps
WickedMerlin:
and to finish your sentence, eadon: ejaculation
is death
eadon-com:
The french call it "Le Petit Mort"
WickedMerlin:
lol, eadon it actually feels that way too
eadon-com:
Indeed it does WickedMerlin! a terrible thing!
eadon-com:
The internet is slow. I bet it is the christians'
fault, filling the pipes with their downloading
of porn :)
Parsifal:
you're a sick man, eadon..
eadon-com:
I know :)
eadon-com:
Well, the christians must enjoy porn more than
non-christians. They have the added pleasure
of having it be a forbidden vice and temptation
that will condemn them to scream at the center
of the earth for all eternity. I bet they get
a kick out of that.
Parsifal:
er... I think that's only the Catholics or the
hardliners, eadon..
Isolani:
Fascination of the forbidden, that is a Freud
concept isn't it?
eadon-com:
Yes, true Parsifal, most christians choose to
believe they can get away with it :)
dlh:
once saved, always saved, so they download porn
BishopHavoc:
you're a sick man dlh :-)
eadon-com:
Dlh and eadon are obviously sick side as well
as dark side
FriarFryUp:
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used by Christians to declare themselves]
BishopHavoc:
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dlh:
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eadon-com:
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eadon-com:
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eadon-com:
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eadon-com:
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FriarFryUp:
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FriarFryUp:
The spirit revealed something to me when I was
walking outside today, that the new testament
was formed on apostolic authority under the
influence of the spirit
dlh:
jesus, the ground of all being, the one, god,
neurons firing, holy spirit, it does not matter
maybe
FriarFryUp:
and that like the prophets of old, we can say
things that are divinely inspired. However,
what separates the canon is that it is universally
accepted trying to get all the christians across
the world to accept what you said might take
some time and influence.
Isolani:
FriarFryUp, at Bible college will they teach
you to correctly, in a stentorian voice, pronounce
"God" in sermons properly, you know, as God
is from Tulsa. "Gawd-duh"
Batman:
I believe that animals make decisions subconsciously,
but a subconscious mind is exactly like the
conscious mind in many ways. I think if any
emotion were considered "conscious," it should
not be called an emotion, but a Thought.
eadon-com:
guilt is not a conscious emotion, rather the
consciousness acknowledging an emotion posted
to it by an unconscious entity
WickedMerlin:
guilt is an "after-the-fact" emotion - it governs
future acts not present. I still think that
is too complex for animals
Batman:
yes, Thoughts are conscious, Feelings are subconscious.
eadon-com:
does it WickedMerlin! does guilt govern the
future acts????
WickedMerlin:
it does in the way that you avoid guilt-inducing
actions
eadon-com:
ah!
eadon-com:
does the conscious mind tell you that WickedMerlin?
WickedMerlin:
no, subconscious
WickedMerlin:
it kicks in and steers you away. By learning
you learn to avoid the situations
eadon-com:
yes
eadon-com:
so how do you know that guilt governs your future
acts?
Batman:
animals learn the same way, my dog ate the converter,
I put him in the garage for half the day by
himself, and he never touched the converter
since then.
WickedMerlin:
interesting Batman , and who puts us in the
garage?
Batman:
our lousy hormones do...:)
TyroWarlock:
animals don't learn that way. Perhaps an intelligent
one does.. a CAT certainly doesn't feel guilt
like that :)
Batman:
my dog feels guilty. When he does something
wrong, he hides from me.
TyroWarlock:
my cat never feels guilt. Maybe that's because
you are a mean mean nasty owner? ;)
Batman:
hehe
eadon-com:
dogs have evolved to have empathy with humans.
Wolves do not. But wolves are better at problem-solving
than domesticated dogs
Batman:
hehe...have you been giving wolves math tests
again eadon?
TyroWarlock:
hmm.. there's an idea eadon.. dogs have empathy
with us.. hmm I hadn't thought of that
eadon-com:
Over the centuries they have been selected by
humans for that trait, TyroWarlock, I believe
eadon-com:
chess steals your little brain cells from more
productive tasks, like being personable
Viking:
25th December was Mithras birthday, christianity
simply stole it, this is known for a fact
eadon-com:
leave thinking for the atheists, for thinking
is the curse incumbent upon the sinners
eadon-com:
believing is easy. thinking is hard. The secret
to the success of religion.
Isolani:
Religion is hard, truth is easy.
eadon-com:
the truth is easy???
Isolani:
Or ... I may be wrong.
eadon-com:
some truths are easy. Pythagoras is an easy
truth to acquire
BishopHavoc:
Xtians have reached a higher level of thinking,
its called belief
Isolani:
"Understanding" I should have said, is easy.
Or rather, easy to take. Not easy to get.
eadon-com:
But other truths are impossible to obtain too,
as Godel proved
eadon-com:
There are only three things that matter: width,
length and what you do with it. If you have
those the chicks will love you for your sense
of humour
GodSnorter:
I already know my first-born son's name, :-)...
eadon-com:
eadon-com is a good name for a first born
dlh:
Madpole reminds me of the cookie monster on
Sesame Street
Madpole:
Oh God - You are a true Satan in disguise -
I love You for that!
eadon-com:
And LadyGodiva is just wonderful
LadyGodiva:
aw shucks :)
eadon-com:
I think LadyGodiva is very very cute
eadon-com:
Oh! she is here!
FytinFrank:
LadyGodiva is a honeybabe, eh?
LadyGodiva:
oooooh, WickedMerlin... you adore me too???
Madpole:
Prostituting myself I have been again..
DeaconNihilo:
fetch a good price?
Madpole:
and no profit although tax office is BUGGERING
ME all the time!
eadon-com:
Hey, LadyGodiva is mine. I like her for her
synapses thank you very much
LadyGodiva:
it's my sodium-potassium processes :)
FytinFrank:
I like her for her sinful lapses
LadyGodiva:
my favorite parts :)
Madpole:
Learn to love yourself for hating yourself -
simple, innit ?
eadon-com:
Thanks LadyGodiva, you are really nice
pmk:
Fling the faithless followers into the Father's
forever fiery flaming furnaces!
Madpole:
eadon? still here? I am not
eadon-com:
no, me neither madpole
CharlieStorey:
It's probably
better to do something better with your time
than sit and play chess!
Batman:
ah, the foolish expedient for making idle people
believe they are doing something clever. At
least, in the words of that bum Bertrand.
WorshipGodNotChess:
Couldn't
agree more CharlieStorey. That is why I have
taken the last two years off from studying chess
and have studied the Bible instead. A much better
use of my time.
Batman:
I wonder how productive studying the bible is.
WorshipGodNotChess:
It has improved
my life dramatically.
catdoc:
It could hardly be less productive than studying
chess I suppose
WorshipGodNotChess:
I have gone
from swearing to not even having the swear words
come into my mind.
catdoc:
The V chip would have done that
eadon-com:
I bet you are thinking of some swear words now
WorshipGodNotChess, aren't you?
WorshipGodNotChess:
I have significantly
increased the patience I have with the wife
and 3 kids. I have more energy on less sleep
and I have a deeper love for my fellow man.
All changes that happened on the inside and
are therefore not available to you as proof
but it sure is proof to me.
catdoc:
You have found what is sometimes called "a purpose
in life". It generally does a body a world of
good.
eadon-com:
WorshipGodNotChess have you heard of the placebo
effect? People are given "pain killers" that
are nothing but sugar and then they are then
given pain. A brain scan reveals that they really
do feel less pain. Suggestion is very powerful,
even if there is no substance behind it.
catdoc:
When 225 passengers were placed on a placebo
airplane, it wasn't amazing that 213 of them
sat on the empty runway looking foolish, but
that 12 of them arrived just slightly behind
schedule at Heathrow!
WorshipGodNotChess:
Fortunately
in this case there is substance behind it and
it has eternal life benefits.
eadon-com:
How do you know that the bible isn't one big
sugar placebo pill?
WorshipGodNotChess:
Because I
have met my Lord and Saviour. Again something
that I can't prove to you but you can prove
to yourself if you so desire.
JGR:
I wish Spearfish could do his "ACT LIKE IT'S
TRUE BABY ACT LIKE IT'S TRUEEEEEEEEE" alias....
eadon-com:
Religion is a big placebo sugar pill. If you
believe it works then it will work.
WorshipGodNotChess:
But eadon
with out it you have no hope and with it life
is great and the after life is even better.
I don't understand why you don't at least try
to have some hope in your life instead of just
giving up.
eadon-com:
It's not a case of giving up WorshipGodNotChess,
it's a case of not being delusional for the
sake of gaining comforting beliefs
eadon-com:
the christians have a pact with the devil. They
pull the wool over their eyes in exchange for
not seeing the dogs
eadon-com:
I will do everything in my power to give you
dilemmas so much so that you are skewered on
a million horns
[A prediction made by Mecking 6 dec 2000: 6:
"Jesus Christ will return this year. December
31, 2000, is the end of the 20th Century and
the Second Millennium."]
dlh:
soon Mecking will be proved wrong and he can
modify his finger note to say he meant jesus
would appear in somebody's heart by the end
of the year
Isolani:
Mecking is just the tip of the iceberg that
is fundamentalism.
Isolani:
Or should I say literalism.
eadon-com:
I would rather think of science as the iceberg
and fundamentalism as the approaching Titanic
Isolani
TheVicar:
Jesus may actually be a function of the believer's
brain stem.
eadon-com:
Yes TheVicar, jesus may actually be a function
of the believer's brain stem in the same way
that Disability is a function of a hunchback's
hump
TheVicar:
the funny part of it is that the brain stem
is shaped like a cross. The bottom goes into
the spine and the cross bar spreads into the
brain.
dlh:
Isolani:
Anatomy, astronomy, geology, everything points
to Jesus?
dlh:
cool TheVicar, that must mean something. A mans
sexual organ is in the shape of a snake too,
that ties back to genesis obviously and a mans
sexual organ is in the shape of a snake too,
that ties back to genesis obviously and the
serpent in the garden
eadon-com:
Jesus is no more a function of the brain stem
than Mother Teresa is a function of the sphincter
theDucks:
so does that if you've got your head up you
arse that you are going to hell?!
Isolani:
Experience with things Satanic eadon? You are
one of those faith healers?
eadon-com:
That's right Isolani, I cure christians
Isolani:
If I decided to worship wisdom, and felt whole-heartedly
that eadon-com was the pinnacle of, the nodus
of that idea, and chose to worship eadon-com,
would I be an "eadonist"?
eadon-com:
I might be flawed but I know I have a friend
in you!
dlh:
the land of freedom is an energy hog and must
go on a diet
eadon-com:
Indeed! but diets never work :)
eadon-com:
Britain is the same
eadon-com:
The US is very vulnerable these days to cyber
warfare
dlh:
true eadon, my son told me about some kind of
goings on in Rumania and slowing our routers
or some such
eadon-com:
All your vital services, food distribution,
energy, telephones, defense, power, everything,
they all depend on information systems that
can be reached by anyone anywhere in the world
dlh:
next time we bail out a middle eastern country
Britain and the US will get better payback,
LOL
eadon-com:
If terrorists were to take down your information
systems the US economy would collapse, looting
would invade the streets and all hell would
be let loose
Batman:
The economy existed before IBM did.
BloodInWater:
Of course, just cause it didn't exist before,
doesn't mean it won't bring chaos now
dlh:
true eadon, we could have airplanes falling
out of the sky and kinds of disaster
Batman:
And the Wright Brothers never owned a computer.
:)
dlh:
the Wright brothers never flew supersonic jets
eadon-com:
If no one can phone each other or communicate
because of cyber terrorists, then that is deep
dudu
Batman:
Bah, I'm not scared.
eadon-com:
Planes colliding would be a side effect of airport
flight control systems going down or sending
out wrong info yes dlh
dlh:
but eadon, cyber terrorists might become like
UFO mythology, I.e.----"I was abducted by cyber-terrorists-----"
ROFL
BloodInWater:
take electricity for an example, 200 years ago,
no such thing, take it away today=mass chaos
and death
Batman:
I wouldn't die without electricity.
dlh:
"the cyber-terrorists kidnapped me and took
me into their world whereupon they proceeded
to stick probes in the secret parts of my body---"
LOL
BloodInWater:
in winter without heating and cooking equipment?
Batman:
I've lived outside in 40 degree below zero temperatures
for two weeks in a make-shift tent. I boiled
snow to make water.
dlh:
that sucks Batman
Batman:
It was fun! It was so cold that when I spit,
it would turn to ice before it hit the ground!
Parsifal:
what have you got in your veins that enabled
you to survive ??!!
BloodInWater:
liquid paraffin?
Parsifal:
30 per cent proof blood?
Batman:
I had lots of dress and a nice fire...
dlh:
I have heard dudes at the south pole have to
use an oven as a refrigerator, LOL
Parsifal:
nobody would have flown a supersonic jet but
for the Wright brothers... and it took them
nearly 5 years before their claims were accepted
eadon-com:
they would parsifal, I think that the jet would
have been invented sooner or later. If the Wright
brothers didn't invent flight first someone
would have
FytinFrank:
Parsifal, once they flew, they flew, eh?
Parsifal:
no FytinFrank
FytinFrank:
birds and butterflies had it figured out
Parsifal:
despite scores of affidavits, and photos, it
took them nearly 5 years before there was universal
acceptance after Roosevelt demanded a demonstration
dlh:
airplanes would have eventually been invented
anyway. I think Curtis was working on a proto-type
too
Cinderella:
never said she made sense
eadon-com:
if you ask me it is the work of a princess not
to make sense but to make love
Cinderella:
eadon, you are misinformed
eadon-com:
oh no I'm not!
eadon-com:
all together now: OH YES YOU ARE!!!
eadon-com:
oh now I'm not!!!
eadon-com:
all together now: OH YES YOU ARE!!!
eadon-com:
OH NO I'M NOT!!!
eadon-com:
all together now: OH YES YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eadon-com:
ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh YYYYYYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
IIIIIIIIIIIII AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
punch:
-OH NO YOUR NOT
eadon-com:
OH YES I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
punch:
- OH YES YOU ARE
eadon-com:
OH NO I'M NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KSose:
Here he is.. the Man, himself...
eadon-com:
I am your worst nightmare! A Mecking prediction
that became true. [Mecking predicted Christ
would return New Years day 2001]
KSose:
Oh, how perfectly awful !
eadon-com:
Except if you exchange the baby geezuz with
Babbie Satan
dlh:
Babbie Satan is a las vegas night club act
WickedMerlin:
I am sure eadon can reduce this to a chemical
problem in three short sentences
eadon-com:
We are all chemicals WickedMerlin. If you think
about it your body is nothing but an ongoing,
and sometimes smelly, chemical reaction.
WickedMerlin:
1 and counting
KSose:
Mine sure is.. a gooey smelly mess.
eadon-com:
That is what we are: chemical reactions! Pretty
amazing chemical reactions too, considering
that we shovel chemicals into our stomachs to
keep the reactions going nicely. Strange how
a chemical reaction can be conscious.
WickedMerlin:
2 and one to go
eadon-com:
A chemist could write the reaction on the black
board given enough time, chalk and a big enough
black board. This is weird. We are made of atoms
which are joined together into molecules. We
are chemistry. [cut and pasted from a page in
the philosophy section of www.eadon.com]
WickedMerlin:
And eadon strikes!!!
dlh:
the hindu and Buddhist notion of looking "inwards"
is a much better metaphor
eadon-com:
Yes dlh and what did they find? blood, flesh
and bone?
catdoc: dlh,
they're looking where the cameras are. Looking
down at your belt is so old-fashioned, and doesn't
convey anything to the viewing audience
dlh:
a metaphor eadon, a metaphor. true catdoc, lol
eadon-com:
So what is the metaphor really alluding to?
dlh:
it is an inward consciousness eadon, call it
what you will
eadon-com:
Ultimately the conscious mind is aware of a
bit of what the subconscious knows. That is
all it will ever know.
dlh:
neurons firing, god, the ground of being, the
tooth fairy, it does not matter.
eadon-com:
dlh, if you had spent all of your life stuck
in a room with no interaction with anyone or
anything except the four walls, do you think
that looking inward would teach you anything?
dlh:
no, then maybe you should look out the window
a bit eadon
eadon-com:
exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
eadon-com:
Looking inward is not the answer!
dlh:
but I get bored looking out the window. When
I look out the window I see my neighbor's pink
flamingos on his lawn.
dlh:
look inward eadon!
eadon-com:
<LOOKS INWARD>
eadon-com:
<swallows eyeballs>
eadon-com:
Gulp!
eadon-com:
Hmmm. Pretty dark in here dlh
dlh:
ah, eadon has inward darkness, he must work
on it
eadon-com:
I will dlh
eadon-com:
I will swallow a torch
eadon-com:
Somebody said that if this jesus bloke ever
came back (big if) then he would be annoyed
by the xtians wearing crosses. Would you like
to be reminded of the torture all the time?
dlh:
good point eadon, modern counter-part would
be dudes walking around with little electric
chairs around their necks, LOL [simultaneously
this tell appeared on the screen...]
eadon-com:
Just as well he wasn't killed on the electric
chair. Those electric chair necklaces might
be dangerous
dlh:
eadon and I are in the groove as usual this
evening
dlh:
he and I are long lost cousins I am sure
eadon-com:
Indeed dlh, you look inwards I look outwards.
I must be looking at dlh's inwards
Madpole:
Exactly Isolani - I learnt something about mountains
and why everybody dies there. Practically every
mount climber climbs until they die
Isolani:
The body of Mallory lays near the summit of
Everest. Lots of dead frozen well-preserved
corpses and discarded O2 bottles up there.
Madpole:
there was this Polish woman who scored every
peak - then she had a baby and a husband...
but she had to go one "last" time
Isolani:
and...?
Madpole:
and she died too - I loved her husband response
- rather than being angry with her he just said
"this is what she was"
Isolani:
Very Buddhist response. Almost, forgiving the
past-tense.
Madpole:
he knew who he had married - very nice of him
... it was her fault for leaving her family
without her... but .. they understood
Isolani:
I'm sure she didn't intend to die.
Madpole:
they understood that this is the way she was
- all climbers are addicted to death
Batman:
maybe the mountains were something that she
couldn't leave...she had to die there.
eadon-com:
Why do climbers die? Because death is there
Conquistidor:
The pope is an anti-christ his title means God
in the Flesh only Jesus was God in the Flesh
eadon-com:
the pope is a good man with Alzheimer's it appears.
When the pope's personality disintegrates in
proportion to the damage to the brain caused
by that disease, no doubt the christians will
say that his soul is seeping into heaven drip
by drip
Conquistidor:
It is along held Protestant belief that the
pope is an anti-christ and that the Roman Catholic
Church is the whore of Babylon in Rev.17 Charles
Finny believed that Wesley did Calvin Luther
did
Elise:
The bifurcation in the spiritual Ur-decision
toward inculturated thought process as the determinant
of teleological compassing in political arena
vs. the pathos method à la Greek states is food
for thought. [Thanks to JGR]
Spearfish:
The psychopolitical conundra which offer concupiscent
dilettantism to those who perambulate towards
geopolitical hoi polloi, transverse a frozen
intellectual tundra throbbing with minutiae
of the extrapolated filigree. [Thanks to Duffadelux
via JGR] [Spearfish reads philosophy...]
Spearfish:
"Is god willing to prevent evil but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able but not
willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able
and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he
neither able nor willing? Then why call him
god?" Epicurus
Spearfish:
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know
that it is round, for I have seen the shadow
on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow
than in the church." Ferdinand Magellan
Spearfish:
Albert Einstein 24 March 1954 wrote: "It was,
of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically
repeated. I do not believe in a personal God
and I have never denied this but have expressed
it clearly.
Spearfish:
"During almost 15 centuries has Christianity
been on trial. What has been its fruits? More
or less, in all places, pride and indolence
in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the
laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
James Madison
Spearfish:
Lucretius: "Religion is a disease born of fear."
Spearfish:
"...one does well to put on gloves when reading
the New Testament. The proximity of so much
filth almost compels one to do so." Friedrich
Nietzsche
P.S. Any of your favourite philosophy/religion
quotes (or tells if you are on ICC) for inclusion
on my site would be happily received. Thanks
- Jim (eadon-com)
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