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eadon-com:
Women always like a sense of humour in a man,
but then again they like enigmatic men.
Dudge:
These are not contrary characteristics, eh?
JGR:
I can remember the first time I fell on love.
We were both 12 or so, at the beach, she was
the most beautiful blonde and well...of course,
she ignored me and nothing happened but...
Isolani:
There was a girl who played on the girl's water
polo team. I of course played on the guy's team.
We practiced together sometimes. Didn't know
till a few years later she had a "crush" on
me. She was so gorgeous I couldn't talk in her
presence. I'm old now, and happily married,
so I must watch myself.
eadon-com:
I think there are Dudge
Lyrica:
you can't set enigma and humour as 2 different
sides ..
Isolani:
Admiration vs. lust. The older I get the more
convinced I become that it's admiration.
eadon-com:
why are enigma and humour not contradictory?
Lyrica:
you can still have a fantastic sense of humour
and after 14 days I still know zip bout you..
:)
Dudge:
Exactly.
eadon-com:
ah! Perhaps this is true. Perhaps it isn't.
Enigmatic clowns exist?
Isolani:
We are biological specimens, not spiritual entities,
according to eadon's way of thinking. So lust
for him is ok. For me it's a not-good thing,
if it isn't directed toward my wife.
eadon-com:
OK Lyrica I will tell you a joke
Lyrica:
okies, I'm listening :)
eadon-com:
A burglar breaks into a house. Upon smashing
a window he hears a voice, which says "Hi, I'm
Jesus!" He ignores the voice, thinking it to
be an artefact of his imagination, but then
again the voice is audible to his hearing! "Hi
I'm Jesus" and the voice adds "and Moses is
watching You!"
eadon-com:
So the burglar says "hey! you" who says that?
for there is no light in the house, all is dark...And
lo and behold the voice says, "me, Jesus". The
burglar finds a light switch and presses it
and he sees a parrot!
BishopHavoc:
this is a good one
eadon-com:
and he says to the parrot, "who would be stupid
enough to call a parrot 'JESUS'"??? And the
parrot says....
eadon-com:
.... wait for it....
Lyrica:
Moses got to be a doggie
eadon-com:
.... "The same guy who calls his rottweiler
MOSES!"
eadon-com:
Booom Booom!
Lyrica:
hehe yep..
Isolani:
cymbal crash
eadon-com:
Now that isn't particularly funny...
BishopHavoc:
I like that one
Isolani:
I liked it.
Lyrica:
that was sweet :)
eadon-com:
But I bet I'm much less enigmatic to Lyrica
now :)
Parapet:
Are you ready to BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY?
Isolani:
You are unfathomable eadon.
Lyrica:
Ill let you in on a little secret. I'm not into
enigma guys... I have enough of that in my life.
.... :)
BishopHavoc:
sorry I ruined your timing though eadon, me
and my big mouth will try to be more circumspect
Isolani:
Naw BishopHavoc you did ok.
Lyrica:
wasn't cos of you I guessed it , BishopHavoc
:)
eadon-com:
BishopHavoc, your misplaced enthusiasm is always
beloved
BishopHavoc:
:-[
BishopHavoc:
:-)
Isolani:
You ruined it BishopHavoc!
BishopHavoc:
:-[
Isolani:
You were completely neutral in your treatment
of the joke?
Lyrica:
Come on dudes, be more of an enigma when it
comes to show your 'hate' towards each other
:)
Isolani:
Where's that smile boy?
Dudge:
What's up this evening? Everyone trying to figure
out what Lyrica likes in a guy, and imitate
that? ;)
Isolani:
In fifth grade Mrs. Tucker told us never (or
rarely) use the word "hate" Lyrica.
eadon-com:
Can you hate the word hate Isolani?
Lyrica:
well, at 2 am hate was the only hostile word
I could spell =P
Lyrica:
hostile
Isolani:
Good question eadon.
Dudge:
Hate is just an extreme dislike...sometimes
appropriate
Isolani:
Despise vs. hate. Is there a difference in meaning?
eadon-com:
Despise is more aloof
Isolani:
When Daffy Duck tells Elmer Fudd that Elmer
is "despicable" does it sound like "I hate you"?
No. I rest my case your honor. No further questions.
BishopHavoc:
Xtians 777 non-Xtians 1
Lyrica:
despicable is such an awesome word.
Dudge:
Speaking of cartoon characters, I have a joke...will
try to do a little better than the last one
told in here.
Isolani:
Another courting joke?
Dudge:
Mini and Mickey Mouse are getting a divorce...
BishopHavoc:
NnnOOOOo!
Isolani:
I know the punch line to this one Dudge so I'll
keep shut.
Dudge:
So, after reading over the papers, the lawyer
says to Mickey, "So, I see you accuse your wife
of being crazy?"
Dudge:
Mickey replies "No, no, no! I said she was f*ckin'
goofy, not crazy"
BishopHavoc:
very nice Dudge lol
JGR:
I just reported you Dudge.
JGR:
:)
Lyrica:
oh no, we will have all this fuss in here again
=P
eadon-com:
we all love Dudge and his jokes. The old ones
are the best ;)
Isolani:
Once I typed a word with asterisks and was promptly
ejected for a time from this channel. [Typing
one of the more extreme profanities can get
one temporarily banned from the channel] I used
the asterisks!
Dudge:
If Dudge got banned there would be much more
fuss than over Spearfish or madpole...:)
Dudge:
There would be open rebellion!
Lyrica:
lol - if you should say so yourself :)
Isolani:
Well, it would be without provocation should
Dudge be ejected. We all would realize that.
And that would make a big difference. Then we'd...
well, I dunno what we'd do. Bleat like sheep
I guess.
Dudge:
For the most part, I think I'm liked by those
I care whether or not I am liked by...:) Always
a good thing. But I'd never get muzzled or banned.
BishopHavoc:
why?
Dudge:
hmm :) I've been nuked a couple times for some
witty jokes regarding erict(*)'s handle, but
that's all. :)
Isolani:
If I got banned it would be a blip in the internet
wilderness. I wouldn't care that much.
sin
BishopHavoc:
narrow is the path that leads to life
BishopHavoc:
but wide is the highway that leads to destruction
eadon-com:
I don't know, BishopHavoc. People are very good
at surviving into old age. the path of life,
considering how stupid people are, must be wide
indeed.
BishopHavoc:
but no-one survives death
BishopHavoc:
except him who has conquered death, namely Christ
eadon-com:
you won't survive death BishopHavoc?
BishopHavoc:
sure, we ALL will
eadon-com:
I think not :)
BishopHavoc:
I was speaking metaphorically
eadon-com:
yes, of course
BishopHavoc:
ah. nevertheless I will see you in heaven, like
it or not :-)
eadon-com:
I would love an afterlife BishopHavoc, that
is the problem. It is so nice and cosy to believe
such a thing that perhaps it is believed by
the gullible only
BishopHavoc:
then there is no problem except turning from
sin and becoming joyful
eadon-com:
life without sin is life without joy
BishopHavoc:
rest assured that anyone who continues to sin
without coverage will be miserable in the end,
if not sooner
eadon-com:
miserable? I find many sinners to be wonderfully
fulfilled people.
eadon-com:
the christians try nothing and don't know what
they are missing
BishopHavoc:
trust me I know what I am not missing
eadon-com:
from experience?
BishopHavoc:
it is not wise to fool one's-self
GodSnorter:
missing what... drugs, alcohol, sex, dead brain
cells, disease?
BishopHavoc:
yes, GodSnorter among other things
eadon-com:
yeah, all of those good things GodSnorter :)
eadon-com:
but I suspect that BishopHavoc has not experienced
what he preaches about, namely a life of sin
BishopHavoc:
methinks someone has overlooked disease in there
eadon-com:
A disease can be good BishopHavoc
BishopHavoc:
not likely
GodSnorter:
I can have as much fun in absence of "sin" as
anyone can with it...
eadon-com:
I'm not saying you can't, GodSnorter, I am merely
saying that you are not qualified to say so
and nor is BishopHavoc
BishopHavoc:
trust me I am qualified
GodSnorter:
(sin is going against the teachings of the church...,
I don't follow a specific church, so I don't
"sin," I go against my personal morals when
"sinning")
BishopHavoc:
yes GodSnorter lets set up our own rules, I'm
sure they will be quite good
GodSnorter:
all I am "certain" of in my belief system -
I am a theist... I believe in a higher being,
a God
TheVicar:
Interacting with non-Christians provides an
interesting challenge. The Christian must persist
and hold his head up high.
BishopHavoc:
no TheVicar the christian should be humble,
with all due respect of course, TheVicar
TheVicar:
BishopHavoc, humility involves stand proud when
all is lost and when seems to being defeated.
Christ is the Ultimate Victory.
BishopHavoc:
true
GodSnorter:
I have never touched alcohol, drugs of any kind,
and won't have sex before marriage.
eadon-com:
GodSnorter, you are missing a lot of fun :)
TyroWarlock:
poor thing GodSnorter... Have you smoked?
GodSnorter:
never
PrayingMattress:
the christian
should be an example
TheVicar:
GodSnorter your morals are truly high. One can
be a Child of God without being a Christian.
TyroWarlock:
yeah, do your homework while on speed
eadon-com:
why should the higher being deny you your fun?
TyroWarlock:
I've only had alcohol, and not drunk have I
gotten
DarthDeath:
I say.
DarthDeath:
drunk gotten have you not, hm?
GodSnorter:
at the academy, I see plenty of examples, my
closest friends - Jew and witch, roommates,
atheist, agnostic, Lutheran, Catholic, Mormon...
38 students, at least 10 different major religions...
TyroWarlock:
I ain't think as you drunk I am oss ifur
eadon-com:
Good constanoon afterble!
FoamingFundy:
everyone a creation child of God but not necessarily
a child of God by rebirth, that is the must
important to be born again
TyroWarlock:
intelligent people need to join secret societies
TyroWarlock:
skull 'n bones or masons will suit you, you'll
be happy
Parsifal:
Cor! Wish I was a mason...
PrayingMattress:
I don't think
the bible says alcohol is a sin, getting drunk
maybe
Parsifal:
Jesus drank wine at weddings
FoamingFundy:
secret societies are generally of the devil
and not holy at all, just a false front of holiness
TheVicar:
No one needs secrecy if one has nothing to hide.
Those who live in deep secrecy have a lot to
hide.
TyroWarlock:
Most everything I like, or am interested in,
is of the devil according to you :)
FoamingFundy:
Jesus never drank fermented wine, it was forbidden
eadon-com:
he probably did, FoamingFundy, in those days
the wine was safer than water, the alcohol killed
bacteria
BishopHavoc:
free beer in heaven!!!!!!!!!!!! sign up now
!!!!!!!!!hell has only sour milk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Parsifal:
apropos this discussion Gentlemen... THIS GM is
a little drunk
eadon-com:
<clinks beer cans with Parsifal>
Parsifal:
wine actually eadon, in my case
eadon-com:
GodSnorter, you are a theist, and yet you are
very specific that drinking and sex before marriage
is wrong. are you a christian?
TheVicar:
eadon, one can have high morals without being
a Christian.
GodSnorter:
(alcohol is not a sin, IMO, getting drunk is)
FoamingFundy:
eadon one doesn't have to be a Christian to
know wrong and right
eadon-com:
yes, but why is sex before marriage not moral?
WickedMerlin:
the concept of sin is purely christian
wombats:
as all christians are necessarily sinners
WickedMerlin:
and all non-Christians can't be sinners
GodSnorter:
I don't believe it's immoral... but I believe
it is immoral if you do not intend to spend
your life with that one partner...
TheVicar:
eadon, the primary purpose of sex is procreation.
Any other purpose is a waste of human energy.
eadon-com:
I am referring to specific sins, ie drinking
alcohol and sex before marriage, that are not
necessarily evil.
GodSnorter:
marriage is a way to insure that two partners
stay with each other for life
TheVicar:
Procreation should take place in marriage so
the children born have a stable home.
DarthDeath:
awwww.
Parsifal:
cobblers GodSnorter
eadon-com:
Now, I do believe in marriage and the stable
institution of marriage, I am a married and
faithful chap, though not religious
Parsifal:
43% divorce in my country, although 93 % marry
eadon-com:
we evolved to be fairly faithful to one partner,
but it is not universally true
Parsifal:
evolved? ha!
TheVicar:
eadon, good! The secret of success in life is
Fidelity (to one's mate), Frugality (in the
home budget) and Faith (in Jesus Christ). Homes
with those characteristics tend to be happy
and productive.
eadon-com:
I subscribe only to the first of TheVicar's
3 values: if married then be faithful. But even
if I subscribe to that, I leave it to others
to decide for themselves
TheVicar:
eadon, sex before marriage could involve heavy
petting without the risk of copulation. The
latter should be reserved for marriage.
Parsifal:
oh dear then. Aren't I a sinner TheVicar
TyroWarlock:
anyone HERE in any secret society?
TyroWarlock:
kind of stupid of me to ask, because you aren't
supposed to tell anyways :)
eadon-com:
copulation before marriage is not evil, TheVicar
Parsifal:
it's bloody good fun TheVicar!!
GodSnorter:
do you consider everything BUT sexual intercourse
sex, when considering virginity?
TheVicar:
Parsifal, we are ALL sinners. However, we all
sin in different ways. Only Christ was sinLESS.
eadon-com:
I won't ask where TheVicar draws the line about
what is allowed before marriage :)
TyroWarlock:
heavy petting eh
eadon-com:
Well, for the sake of the argument I would argue
that full penetration is necessary to lose one's
virginity
TheVicar:
eadon, petting is good before marriage since
it allows one to prepare for marriage. However,
copulation should be reserved for procreation
in marriage.
eadon-com:
it seems crazy that say mutual self gratification
is not a sin and copulation is
WickedMerlin:
not really eadon - a finger might do the job
- does that count as petting?
TheVicar:
eadon, copulation involves the risks of disease
transmission and procreation. That is why it
should be saved for marriage, itself.
eadon-com:
ah, no, not the finger, penetration has to be
done with the old John Thomas :)
GodSnorter:
hmm? (don't know the acronym)
eadon-com:
Only then does one lose one's cherry
TheVicar:
eadon, the reproductive organs themselves should
not be accessed in any way before marriage.
eadon-com:
ah TheVicar, so let us say that if copulation
was without risk of transmission of disease,
then would sex before marriage be a non-sin?
WickedMerlin:
I wonder why God is so hung up on willies and
c**ts
TheVicar:
eadon, restraint has two purposes before marriage:
good health and prevention of reproduction,
Parsifal:
the RULES, TheVicar has had lain down for him,
and now wants to lay down for us The Rules.
For me the rules for any citizen of a Democracy
are simple a) Obey the law. b) Pay taxes. After
that..do what you want
TyroWarlock:
I don't like A
TheVicar:
Parsifal, these rules are MORAL rules, not legal
rules. The moral code is voluntary but recommended.
The Moral Code involves Fidelity, Frugality
and Faith. One ignores that Code at one's own
risk. One can just look all around to see the
unhappiness of the "loose" life. Disease and
poverty are rampant.
GodSnorter:
kind of sad, I've gone farther with my best
friend, than I have with a steady g/f of 104
days...
TyroWarlock:
I hope you also realize what "steady girlfriend"
used to mean ;) but it doesn't anymore, so I'll
shush
GodSnorter:
shortest - two weeks... (she dumped me for not
having sex :-))
Parsifal:
ah Have sex with the next one GodSnorter...and
she'll stay longer!!
eadon-com:
TheVicar, if no risk of disease or pregnancy,
then is sex before marriage a non-sin?
TheVicar:
eadon, there is always risk of disease and pregnancy,
even in marriage. However, in marriage those
risks can be handled effectively. Out of marriage
those risks can by fatal.
Parsifal:
In CANADA, in the 1960s, there were a fair number
of men serving terms of LIFE imprisonment for
the crime of performing oral sex on their wives
TheVicar:
Parsifal, those Canadian laws probably prevented
a lot of disease. Now they are gone and diseases
from those sources has skyrocketed.
eadon-com:
TheVicar, the question I am asking is this:
Is sex before marriage inherently a sin, or
is it only a sin because of the risk of disease
transmission or the risk of pregnancy
TheVicar:
eadon, risks cannot be separated from acts.
There was never a way to do it in the past and
there will be no way to do it in the future.
Parsifal:
ha! TheVicar. I don't think I am a criminal
if I do that to my wife. ( pretty P***ed off
if anybody else did though...)
WickedMerlin:
well, if it calms you Parsifal, I have no intention
of going down on your wife
Parsifal:
thx WickedMerlin...you cooled me down thank
you
BishopHavoc:
GO THEVICAR!!!! I will relief pitch for in about
30 mins.
TheVicar:
Parsifal, even in marriage, the PRIMARY purpose
of sex should be PROCREATION. Other uses of
it wastes energy and promotes risks even in
marriage.
Dudge:
Anything else done for enjoyment "wastes energy"
too?
TheVicar:
Parsifal, one could go Para diving every day
with one's wife and BOTH may end up as casualties
after a year. Just because one can engage in
an activity does not mean one SHOULD engage
in that activity.
TyroWarlock:
sex wastes energy?
eadon-com:
sex is the best waste of energy going? why else
bother with energy?
TyroWarlock:
it actually creates energy
eadon-com:
The surrealist painter Dahli abstained from
sex while painting a masterpiece. he derived
energy from his swollen plums
TyroWarlock:
the energy he got from there eadon, preparing
for it :) it was still made
wombats:
my favorite Dahli painting: one moment before
awakening from a dream caused by the flight
of a bee around a pomegranate
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