Talkback: Swordfish

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From:	John Kato	2001-09-15 03:09:27
Subject:	Swordfish
Comment:	This movie is a lot more interesting given the nature of the WTC attack. I suspect a lot of CIA types finding that this movie provides some intersting ideas as to how fight an asymetical war.
From:	Vladimir Perovic	2002-01-02 06:39:15
Subject:	Comment on 'SwordFish': Logical conclus
Comment:	Very good point and the keyword is 'how the mighty empire like US can successfully fight the asymmetric war'??!! First to organize super secret, super covert, anti-terrorist, patriotic organisation that has no limits imposed on them. Their goal is to fight Arab terrorism with all the means necessary at all costs including even some civilian collateral damage. This organisation is a state within a state that can distract anybody including the official government. Maybe they work closely with CIA & Mosad therefore only these 2 Intelligence Agencies know about the existence of this stealthy and most effective secret organisation of all the times. They are their to secure all the values of an ordinary fellow citizen at all costs including sacrificing WTC twin towers and 'just' 2900 lives of expected 20 000. Oh don't get mad at me now, I'm just speculating based on some logical scenario that I'm going to present here. On September 10th 2001, just a day before WTC event, it would be very difficult or perhaps even unthinkable for US to do the following: - Start the campaign on Afghanistan just like that and be supported by all the allies and even few traditional foes like Russia and China. We didn't hear much from UN veto powers this time. Nobody cried over the faith of Afghanistan. We all remember how Russia and China bragged during the latest bombing campaign on Yugoslavia. Even some NATO powers raised a lot of eyebrows and at one point Marlene Albright had to say something like 'Shut the fuck up EU, we pay the bill so we call the shuts' :). None of that shit happened this time and most likely would never happen if US decides to engage on Iraq and bomb the hell out of them.
From:	Vladimir Perovic	2002-01-02 06:40:35
Subject:	Continued
Comment:	- Give such a badly needed boost to the economy by engaging into a new War - Secretly give out the green light to Israel to launch major strikes against Palestinians and harshly punish them like never before. Don't forget that US needs Israel as much as Israel needs US. CIA needs Mosad, US economy wouldn't be the same without a number of wealthy Jews. Like it or not we all gotta dance with Jews and.. fuck it I like these guys.. A LOT OF STYLE where means are irrelevant in order to achieve the objective and preserve the standard of life we all enjoy. Of course everything is being done with 'white gloves' on their hands and that's the style I'm talking about. - Immediately start making fortress out of US and slashing so many 'outdated' rights and freedoms that stand for unnecessary luxury after the end of cold war. Let's build the true empire and stop playing good guys because Soviet Union is way behind us already. No more 'good-guy' masks needed in order to prevent the spread of communism... the cold war is over, we know who won it therefore let's collect the prize. WTC event eliminated all the future cries of so called civil right protagonists, critics and ‘freedom watchers’. How convenient for the government to say right now ‘ shut the fuck up and comply ‘cause we just entered the long war with terrorism’.
From:	Vladimir Perovic	2002-01-02 06:41:33
Subject:	Continued
Comment:	- Look how much US achieved on international level since the WTC event. Ha ha ha.. would any of us be able to imagine Russia would ever allow US Military to use airports in Tajikistan and some other former Soviet Republics. US Marines taking over airports in Kandahar and Kabul. I believe shortly we will see US mining corporations in Afghanistan, not to mentions some oil pipelines running through Afghanistan.. the intersection of middle and far east.. Russia, China, Pakistan, India and mighty US army and a number of corporations right in the middle like the traffic officer on duty on the intersection that doesn't have traffic lights :) Benefits are enormous and will start unveiling in the years to come. Hey maybe, there are some crumbs for all of you like myself who like gambling on the stock market (I don't see it falling anymore). Ha ha ha, I heard some rumours that 4 000 Jews didn't show up for work on Sept. the 11th.. well if that's true than at least the better half survived - the richer one should say. Well, I do feel sorry for all those people whose lives maybe got scarified for a greater cause that's in national best interest, but who says the life is fair. As John Travolta says in the movie ‘Swordfish’ – “American public is sick of happy endings”. I do hope that whoever runs the empire wont forget victim’s families and will send out some hefty cheques in order to put down the pain.
From:	Vladimir Perovic	2002-01-02 06:41:56
Subject:	Continued
Comment:	I personally feel great seeing our soldiers on guard in some Arab countries like Afghanistan or S.Arabia. The soldiers of civilized world (ANUIT CEPTUS) holding on leash those firkin' Arab mad dogs. How great is it seeing Israeli helicopters and F-16 jetfighters pounding Palestinian positions just because of few civilian casualties. Hopefully Iraq is next and this time hopefully we are going to see some greater action. Civilized world must have a leash on Arab world and all those fanatics with a number of wives and tendency to multiply like roaches, infest the whole world and exterminate us, the better quarter. If this makes sense to you feel free to drop me a line. My e-mail address is vladimirp@hotmail.com and don't get offended if you are a westerner, there are no reasons to get mad. I just remembered what John Travolta sad in that movie 'SwordFish'. What if WTC event is like the 'Houdini's trick where the brain gets descepted by what it hears and sees without the ability to make immediate logical conclusion?'. If I'm mistaken and nothing is really behind the curtain then those filthy Arab terrorists really scare me off. Vladimir Perovic Toronto - Ontario vladimirp@hotmail.com
From:	Eliahu COHEN	2003-05-01 12:04:15
Subject:	get back to earth, you antisemit !
Comment:	Vlad, I'll say it politely : Get back down to earth for hell's sake ! Swordfish is just a movie. You are talking about sending money to the victims'families, but you should begin by having some respect for them and stop saying such crap. If your family was dead in a supermarket in Tel aviv after that a fanatic blew himself up, maybe you wouldnt think the same way. Golda Meir once said : we will forgive palestiniens to kill our sons, but we wont forgive them to force us to kill theirs. Now if you think that they are the poor innocent victim of sionism and American imperialism and that we are thebloody heartless assasins, well then yeah, I dont see why you shouldnt believe that USA blew up WTC. Im 15, Im JEWISH and I think that what you say is bullshit