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the student on the pull

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From: Knoeier2001-04-09 11:25:24
Subject:what d'ya think?
Comment:Apparently the author - our beloved friend Jim Eadon - has lived in a student house similar to the one described in these first two chapters. To what extent is this stuff autobiographical? An interesting question to speculate on. Even though I am a student, I have never lived in a student house. From what I have seen, student houses tend to be not the cleanest ones (understatement of the century there!), although I have never had the pleasure of nude women opening the door or people inviting each other to 'go on the pull' before even introducing themselves. I like the sharp contrast between the protagonist's parental home and the mess in his new place. I also thought the shift in his character very interesting: a little shy and even ashamed at the one moment, but scolding children and threatening to confiscate their pocket money a little later. I am curious how Howard is going to adapt to this new environment, if he manages at all. I predict he can't handle it, ends up disillusioned with student life and moves back in with his parents again. Or maybe he commits suicide (if I am right, that means the novel is too predictable! hehe)
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From: MadPole2001-04-09 18:18:53
Subject:Analyze me not
Comment:Of course Mr 'Analyze me not' isolani is entirely wrong, although not far from the truth. It is Howard's character which is more in line with the mind of his create, eadon dot com. Gregis represents author's alter ego, his dark side of the moon, his cravings, fantasies, would bes, could not bes, maybes, babies, drinking strong lager with remotless guilt, inteligent sceptism without depressing irony, cat without a fur, handle without a pot. This turns to be a fascinating and gripping aspect of the novel so far, the wholeness of one's being, the attempt to face one's denial, the naked exploration of yang and ying. This, in fact, goes even deeper than just shallowy surface of Harry and Kreig, as Mr. Knoiner kindly pointed out to us. What about the sharp contrast between the protagonist's parental home and the mess in his new place? What about the shift in his character very interesting: a little shy and even ashamed at the one moment, but scolding children and threatening to confiscate their pocket money a little later? Autor declares his matuirty here and clearly states that yang and ying surround us, that every aspect of life, every object, every situation, every thing has two opposite aspects and can be viewed accordingly. Accordingly to what is obviously not obvious at this stage for author knows how to manipulate our curiousity and keep us in suspended state of joyfully animated 'I am literary critic' mode... who gives a shit...as I perhaps mentioned before: I enjoy the read and the only comment I have to make is that chapters are FAR TOO SHORT for my liking. Thank You for your attention. And thank You Howard dot com for cooking even more delightful dish this time... I hope sex will come into foreplay soon..hehe...
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From: Knoeier2001-04-10 04:29:12
Subject:ch 2
Comment:My analysis may have been shallow, but I don't want to overanalyze the delightful dish eadon served us. We're only in an early stage and I think it's best to stay on the safe side until we get further in to the novel. Why is each character supposed to 'represent' something? A truly great novel is multi-layered and cannot be interpreted that easily, let alone after just two chapters. Maybe the author didn't intend anything like this. Maybe he is now laughing his head off watching us imitate literary critics and introducing all kinds of philosophies and freudian-ish intrepretations.
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From: MadPole2001-04-10 17:46:50
Subject:Mr. Knorr the first convert of Eadon's W
Comment:It was with joyful delight to discover here that Mr. Knorr has finally come to his senses. That gives one's faith in humanity and just proves that there is hope in this world for everybody, even likes of Mr. 'Analyze me not' isolani, whose guilty silence here speaks volumes, volumes, needless to say, nobody would want or should read. I could not agree with more with Mr. Knorr regarding the sensitive and divisive subject of analysis of one's writing in general, and freudian-ish interpretations of Mr. Eadon's delightful prose in particular. One should remind potential would-be literary critics that novel is primarily aimed at the student population, the very special kind of human sapo whose 24 biological cycle is consumed mainly by strong cider, sex and unsuccessful attempts to generate some cash in order to support those needs. The rest of their mental and physical activity is spent on conspiring the schemas which would somehow push them through the clogs of high education machinery. Eadon's novel is a breath of fresh air for them, freeing them from their anxieties and confirming for them that yes, indeed, this is what being student is, whether one likes it or not. For the rest of us, mature, intelligent and totally trapped in material nature of the world we created for ourselves beings, the novel reminds us that it was not always like that, that once upon a time we were in control of the situation despite not having control at all. It brings our memories, refreshes the parts even the strongest vodka could not reach, forces us to reflect on our lives and discover the mechanisms of why and how we imprisoned ourselves so badly without realizing it along the way.... Yes, I agree with Mr. Knorr as stated previously... only fools could analyze such a wonderful offer of freein
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From: MadPole2001-04-10 17:48:13
Subject:onderful novel?
Comment:g oneself from burdens one carries so determinably on one's tired shoulders... analyzing Eadon's novel is like analyzing food rather than enjoy the taste and experience... it is simply unforgetful sin but luckily for all of us, God is all-forgiving. My advice to the whole human nation is simple: Shut up, Read it and Enjoy it for Monkey's bottom sake!
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From: Mr. Knorr2001-04-11 03:44:22
Subject:a little reception theory
Comment:Hey, I only said it's too early for thorough analysis. I'm not saying all literary criticism is b.s. And according to some postmodern reception theory, the reader sometimes knows the author better than the author does himself!! So then what denies us the right to analyze the novel or even the author himself! The author is completely helpless and his work is nothing but the logical result of forces from his environment pressing on his innocent psyche. When he was writing the novel, he already anticipated our reactions. He was probably thinking of you, YOU, MadPole, when he was producing this sublime, this divine prose. YOU influenced the novel. In fact, you are one of the co-authors, just like iso and me. Total CHAOS! So at least let's structure the chaos a little bit. Even if it doesn't make sense at all. Who cares? And who can tell what's right and what's wrong? Isn't b.s.ing about books one of the greatest pleasures in life?
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From: FumingPole2001-04-11 18:23:27
Subject:The Silence Of Isolani's
Comment:So here we have it, Dudes and Chicks, here we have it, literary criticism exposed, uncovered, undressed down to the bare bottom. First of all we encounter Mr. 'Analyze me not' Isolani, who starts all this nonsense in attempt to deny millions of students and mature human beings alike to read, inhale, swallow and enjoy Eadon's novel. Christian church shows pictures of deformed fetuses in attempt to put us off sex. Animal right activists show disturbing pictures of injured and tortured animals to make sure that we never eat hamburger again. Mr. Isolani mutilates Eadon's novel in similar fashion, hoping that we will never be able to digest it again. And what does he do next? This is typical literary critic response. After insulting Eadon, destroying his hard, valuable work, shredding and tearing it to pieces, he hides his head in the sand and simply 'moves on'. After all it is so easy to criticize others without taking any responsibility for it, without giving the object of criticism the slights chance to fight back. For all we know Eadon might have committed suicide by now, destroyed by Mr. Isolani's harsh, careless and freezing cold words. Then there is Mr. Knorrier, who, despite desperate attempts to be reasonable, cannot hold his literary criticism back. He tells us that the author is completely helpless and his work is nothing but the logical result of forces from his environment pressing on his innocent psyche. But who is Mr. Knorrier if not the author himself ? Of course, according to some postmodern reception theory, the reader sometimes knows the author better than the author does himself. And hence I feel fully justified in reminding this important truth to Mr. Knorrier and Mr. Isolani alike. Come on guys! I know your deeply hidden reasons for all this. Stop
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From: FrothingPole2001-04-11 18:25:27
Subject:.
Comment:spoiling the fun, stop preventing human nation from having its cake and eating it. Get real. Every dog has his day. Every donkey has his dinner. Your moment will come. Open your hearts, become innocent students, immerse yourself in the novel, flow and float with it, let it go, let it hang loose, spank the monkey, don't fear, give the hug to the bear, open a can of bear, have a puff, shoot the dear deer. Why would one want to structure the chaos is beyond me? This clearly proves, Mr. Knorrier, that You don't even understand the author, who is, indeed, a great believer in chaos theory. So here we go: Mr. Eadon gives his last sweat and squeezes the last drop of his energy, sacrificing his life in the process of doing so, in order to bring some chaos into our SO organized lives, and Mr. Knorrier says: 'Hey.. let's organize it a bit!'. This is the biggest insult the artist could receive, we are talking here about installation of messy bed, with condoms, bottles and dirty socks all over the place and critic who simply states: 'Yes, I enjoy this piece of art quite a lot, but let's make a bed a bit tidier, shall we?' No Mr. Knorrier, we shall not! And I don't have to remind You what would have happened if there had not been Big Bang, do I ?
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From: Knoiner2001-04-12 05:30:48
Subject:MadPole
Comment:'This turns to be a fascinating and gripping aspect of the novel so far, the wholeness of one's being, the attempt to face one's denial, the naked exploration of yang and ying. This, in fact, goes even deeper than just shallowy surface of Harry and Kreig, as Mr. Knoiner kindly pointed out to us' - MadPole in an earlier comment. Look how you were talking first, and now YOU tell US to shup up and just enjoy? Now you tell us we shouldn't degrade it like that. Now you tell us 'the chapters are far too short (...) and I hope sex will come into the foreplay soon' (quite an ambigious sentence by the way). That's exactly what eadon is warning for! The degredation of life! Now the monkey comes out of the sleeve (forgive the dutchism): You are only aroused by the posssibility of sex entering the scene. That's all you're reading it for. And when IT finally happens, you sigh with relief (and God knows what else you will do) and then you just put it aside (it that were possible, coz after all it's not in printed format, unless you print it out yourself, but I digress)...where was I? Oh yeah..you just put it aside and don't even have the patience to finish it. What degredation of literature! It's like eating a delightful dish, but you only want the beef, and the potatoes and the vegetables (which is the healthiest part of the meal) you simply leave untouched for the waiter eadon to dump into the garbage can/dustbin or whatever you would like to call it. And hey, I'm not finished yet. I also would like to use this opportunity to accuse you of plagiarism!! I have noticed several times now that you simply copy my sophisticated comments and paste them right into yours!! This is a sin worse than going on the pull. Haven't you ever learned to mention your s
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From: Knor2001-04-12 05:32:44
Subject:continued
Comment:ources? Or at least use inverted commas! It's something you should have learned as as student. What am I saying? In elementary school! With kind regards Knor
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From: Isolani2001-04-12 08:55:01
Subject:Electric Kool-Aid Criticism
Comment:The critics disagree I see. I have been following this inflamed, thesaurus-inspired contention between these two literary critics for, oh, about ten minutes now and where has it got me? Am I better equipped to understand the subtleties of The Student on the Pull? Am I better positioned to read this piece of prose following the plangent preciosity of Messrs. Knoeier and MadPole? Hardly. All that I discover in their separate op-eds is confusion, a blurring of the pure picture of Howard pulling (did I say that right?) Their 'criticism' is to Mr. Eadon's story as the glaucous cataract is to the afflicted eyeball. I will here attempt once again to refine the theatre of discussion, once so lucid and economically worded, now so saturated with superfluity :) Howard is to Greg as Cronus is to Zeus. Zeus will be forced to spiritually kill Cronus the monster-father in order to become a full-fledged flawed god of his own. How's that? :)
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From: Ti Shan2001-04-12 08:56:56
Subject:Advice to Mr. Knor
Comment:'the past is ungraspable, the present is ungraspable, the future is ungraspable.' so what the hell are you doing? Live now, be what you are and enjoy, enjoy, yet again enjoy.'
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From: Knor2001-04-12 12:24:41
Subject:advise
Comment:I would like to thank Mr. - shh..forgot the name -well anyway...the Mr with the Chinese name for his advise but I would like to say that I AM really enjoying this. And don't take me seriously. MadPole and I know each other and we just like to bullshit around. And don't take life too seriously. Literature is only part of life, and life is nothing but a great joke. Of course it's nice to share insights and I like all comments that are made on this wonderful piece of prose, including isolani's. I just don't want to be too analytical myself, because it reminds me too much of university :) But I just saw chapter 3 has been posted, so I'd better check it out and enjoy it.
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From: Madpole2001-04-25 02:21:57
Subject:Freudian Slippery Slope Jung Tongues
Comment:I am forced to add to my previous comments for I believe a very grievous offence has been committed here, on those very pages. I would like to remind Mr. Kniorier that Eadon dot com has kindly given the general public an opportunity to leave their comments here regarding his latest novel, NOT, I repeat, NOT to launch personal and vicious attacks on other members on undeserving human population\. It wasn't enough for You, Mr. , to attack Eadon, was it ? You needed to fill up your starving ego some more, didn't You? I, too, could be personal and say what a pathetic twit You are. I could point out that You do not even qualify to discuss serious matters, here or elsewhere, since You are suffering badly from identify crisis (Knor, Knorier, Kniorier, Knoeier). Don't You even know your name? Can You count to 5 using only one hand? Yes, I too could be personal but I am not going to because I am not prepared to extrementaise Eadon's trust in human kindness and his good will. And few other points: This is COMMENTS page Mr. Knorr! COMMENTS! This is NOT, I repeat, NOT 'Literary Critics Corner', nor is it 'Freudian Slippery Slope Jung Tongues Association'. As far as inverted commas go - this is typical sign of 'novou bourgeoisie inteligencia' and arrogant stupidity. Why one would want to 'invert' things, including the punctuation marks, is entirely beyond me. This is typical 'rebellious' attempt to show one's worth, to inflate one's Ego. Some cut their hair off, some die it pink and Mr. Knorr uses inverted commas to make his protest against the humanity. I would also like to point out that that you simply copy my sophisticated comments and paste them right into yours Mr. Knorr.. not that I mind, I feel quite honored by that, but
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From: dlh2001-04-29 07:09:39
Subject:Chapter 2
Comment:Brilliant writing! But, when do we get to the carrot song? dlh
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From: Hsingi2001-09-21 12:03:19
Subject:Chapter 2.
Comment:I loved your response on ICC to my comments about chapter 1 eadon. You were wrong of course - I don't hate it at all. I even gave it above 5 on your rating scale. The fact that I even bothered to read chapter 2 speaks volumes - surely. I'm writing a novel too, and I admire your guts for posting on the web. I wouldn't dream of doing the same. I enjoy reading your witty reflections and original descriptions. Your use of metaphor and simile (moths fleeing from headlines etc at times is extremely clever). At other times it irritates (yogurt on stawberry). Sadly, your characters sadly are way too stereotypical and chapter 2 only reinforces this point further. The naked girl in the hallway says more about your own half-baked fantasies than anything else and was stale and unimaginative. IF ONLY - you could marry your fresh original writing style with the same originality of content and character.
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From: MadPole2001-09-21 18:05:43
Subject:My Humble Rod....
Comment:Well.. what can I say... the bus theory proves so far the more accurate description of Universe... shame the bloody physicians and phisics and all alike spent so much time analysing it... Here is the proof in the pudding: Eadon wait for the comments for months and then 3 arrive at the same time...
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From: MadPole2001-09-21 18:06:48
Subject:Wholy Trinity...
Comment:This is just to prove the above.
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From: Charlotte2001-09-29 19:14:41
Subject:most read
Comment:I have read chapter 2 as well now, eadon, which makes you the author of whom I have read most, this year
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From: OldPhoenix2002-08-17 10:13:03
Subject:Nifty Spelling Error in the Free Novel
Comment:Despite my desperate attempts to view this web site with abject degenerate jaded horror, I failed. I'm having fun. It's a free novel. Hmm.. nice price. To expensive. :) Somewhere up top there is a mention of a 'discrete pause' Um..... Are you sure it's not a continuous sine wave pause? But however surreal this makes the sentence, the rest of the novel isn't William Gibson or Bruce Sterling, so this should be DISCREET. --- Bennu
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