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From:	Waterman	2002-05-20 05:53:56
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	Hi I've recently discovered that all atheists can be traced back to and are descendants of the Ron Family from prehistoric times. By the way this 'father' of all atheists has a first name. His name was 'Mo'. So now you know the lineage of ALL atheists can be traced back to Mo Ron.
From:	clone	2002-05-21 16:52:53
Subject:	clone
Comment:	I don't agree with Eadon as per usual and nice one Waterman! The whole 'Atheism vs Religion' discussion is total waste of time and space, not to mention oxygen and mental masturbation at its most violent, desparate stage of unfulfilment. Eadon once again demonstrates much religious he is about his ignorance and lack of understanding of basic human psychological make up, such as love, dreams, faith, belief etc...etc...etc... Is he a Clone? I now wonder...
From:	David	2002-10-10 20:02:48
Subject:	a bit of a problem
Comment:	My only problem with the whole atheism thing is this: It is an absolute assumption about something that humans (as science suggests) simply cannot fathom. I used to call myself atheist because I, like all atheists, had exited the 'playpen.' I realize the truth, which is that we are a step in some evolution that we don't understand--but that doesn't necessarily mean there is ABSOULTELY NO POSSIBILITY of the existence of God--although I do completely reject any religious constructs developed by the feeble minds of silly old men with papyrus and a little ink. So......I now declare I'm agnostic, because who the fuck really knows? Plus, there's something about atheism that really turns the women off.
From:	david again	2002-10-11 16:47:20
Subject:	yeah man
Comment:	Yeah, I was pretty plastered writing on this thing, just stumbled upon it and was amused by the atheism bit. I know most atheists just think religion is dumb, but I threw that in because I have a friend who claims atheism in that absolute fashion I was talking about. And because agnosticism literally translates to undecided on God, I just claim that name. In any case, I come from the bible belt so all the silly women think Christianity is sexy, even though most of them drink heavily and engage in premarital sex. So claiming agnostic sounds just acceptable enough, if you know what I mean. Fun shooting the shit, though.
From:	dave	2002-11-16 10:48:26
Subject:	atheists and christmas
Comment:	what are your convictions and thoughts on how, if at all, an atheist should celebrate christmas? with friends and family who do believe in god, isn't it hard to shut them out and not be a part of the celebration of the birth of jesus? can i have a tree and presents and celebrate christmas even if i don't believe in god? Thanx for any response... dave
From:	Eduardo	2003-02-04 19:51:38
Subject:	Christams...
Comment:	Where in christmas is there an event that celebrates christ? No, I think Jolly Ole Saint Nick gets more of the fame :) It should be called Saint Nick Day
From:	Wu Li	2003-02-24 00:53:31
Subject:	The Only Miracle I Need
Comment:	People sometimes ask me where the paradox of existence came from and I tell them I can’t say, but I can say with confidence, “Existence is the only miracle I need.” So extraordinary an event is existence that to call it less than miraculous seems silly to say the least. Miraculous not necessarily in the sense of the supernatural or something wonderful, but at least in the sense that existence is indeed an extraordinary, inexplicable, and unparalleled event in everyone’s life. There may be more miracles waiting out there for each of us, but existence is the only one I absolutely cannot do without, here and now, the one miracle we all share as brothers and sisters, and the one miracle that undeniably makes all others possible. The miracle is not something I had to learn or study, but is something I have always appreciated. As a child I knew it was a miracle without anyone telling me and I appreciated it without anyone telling me it was the right thing to do. The birds in the trees seemed to sing and play with me just for the sake of expressing their joy at the miracle we shared. By adulthood we all learn ways to no longer acknowledge and appreciate the miracle, but the child we once were, and the miracle both persist to at least some extent. You can call the miracle a 'teddy' if you prefer, it makes no difference. Try to deny it and you end up acknowledging it. Try to make it out to be something glorious and beyond comprehension, and it will slap you in the face. Such is the nature of paradox.
From:	Vince	2003-05-29 02:54:49
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	Hi, Your article only takes those into account who have been brought up religious. What about the countless numbers of Christians who were never brought up religious, and even from backgrounds hostile to God? Also consider: Isn’t it a bit extreme to assert 'God does not exist'? To make such a statement you would have to have complete knowledge and to have been everywhere in the universe. Maybe God dwells somewhere in the universe you don’t know of or have not been to? Is that possible?
From:	Danielle	2003-06-08 18:34:02
Subject:	Sex
Comment:	I just have a question...I was wondering what athiests belive about sex and sexual orientation. what is the thought process when contemplating sex and what do you relate sex to? thanks for your help, I am doing a research paper!
From:	cosmicstargoat	2003-08-16 22:24:36
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	Far from being a waste of time, it is the duty of the non religiously imparied to stive for enlightenment to conquer superstition and bigotry. THREE times the number of Americans believe in the concept of immaculate conception of Jesus Christ [who, BTW, never existed] as believe in evolution [which is a fact as well as a theory] Source: New York Times, article yesterday. The Idiot who did the Mo-Ron thing is just exposing his own ignorance and intellectual limitations. Religion and godism explains absolutely nothing at all. Science, by observing natural forces explain a lot. More at cosmicstargoatDOTCOM. CSG
From:	cosmicstargoat	2003-08-16 22:28:43
Subject:	Your argument
Comment:	Maybe The Cosmic Star Goat EXISTS somewhere in the universe and ATE your god, expelled methane gas that would render fundamentalist Xtians as slaves to your fairy tale. My scenario is as valid as yours. Give me evidence that it is not.
From:	wowlfie	2003-08-22 14:56:54
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	Athiests think out of the box--the box of oppressive religious dogma. Athiests are not afraid of them who would oppress us but they are all afraid of us which is why they get so violent all the time. Athiests are the common denominator that transcends life--and we are the foundation upon which life will prevail if it prevails at all.
From:	Mmmm Logic	2003-08-30 22:45:53
Subject:	logic and religion
Comment:	ummm reality is a joke, because everthing we define in based on flawed logic. even that argument is flawed becuase to be valid it must satify the conditions of validity. even that argument is flawed too!! even when i try to define why my whole argument using another argument here it is going to be invalid it will be invalid. and thus it is in valid becuase of circular definition. (this conclusion was reached using the definition of a valid argument). so in conclusion, no argument is valid not even this argument for it involves a circular definition/reasoning.
From:	Mike	2003-09-07 01:21:39
Subject:	No religion
Comment:	Not to submit to 'magical thinking as an individual' and to be, yourself, responsible for all your joys and woes, is the ultimate freedom! To release oneself from dependence on a figmented higher power, and take responsibility for ones owns actions is the ultimate 'maturity'. To try to explain all this to one who 'knows not', is impossible to say the least. One may come to this awareness in this lifetime and one may not. To the 'knower' it does not matter. As you only have this lifetime to know it or not. it is a short lifetime, a short timeline of existance for all life on this planet, and universe. There is only time to live and that is all. When you are gone all the universe dies with you. it is not a sad or happy thing, it just is. ' Revel in your time'. 'The light that burns twice as bright burns twice as fast'.
From:	Salvatore Del Mundo	2003-12-24 21:16:24
Subject:	this is another religion
Comment:	Atheism? This is another religion. Fuck this.
From:	Salvatore Del Mundo	2003-12-24 22:03:58
Subject:	Anyone here smarter than Einstein?
Comment:	What a deep conviction of the rationality of the universe and what a yearning to understand, were it but a feeble reflection of the mind revealed in this world, Kepler and Newton must have had to enable them to spend years of solitary labor in disentangling the principles of celestial mechanics! Those whose acquaintance with scientific research is derived chiefly from its practical results easily develop a completely false notion of the mentality of the men who, surrounded by a skeptical world, have shown the way to kindred spirits scattered wide through the world and through the centuries. Only one who has devoted his life to similar ends can have a vivid realization of what has inspired these men and given them the strength to remain true to their purpose in spite of countless failures. It is cosmic religious feeling that gives a man such strength. A contemporary has said, not unjustly, that in this materialistic age of ours the serious scientific workers are the only profoundly religious people. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. Albert Einstein
From:	Renier	2004-05-14 21:00:49
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	Why does christianity grab such a strangle hold on it's folowers. 1. A child's instinct is to believe what his elders tell him. It is so with all spiecies. 2. You are taught that most things bad are from the devil. That is why many believers try not to question the religion for it might be satan trying to turn you to the dark side. 3. The book says that you may not be unsure or doubt about your belief
From:	si	2004-09-30 02:23:42
Subject:	read a little
Comment:	i'd be interested to hear what and who the author here reads.. these sound like completely unqualified assumptions and assertions. so what do you read?
From:	The Vampire LOGOS	2005-01-06 13:27:16
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	I liked your metaphor of relgions being playpens. But I also noticed the voting scale at the bottom where we can discribe ourselves as a beliver (or something like that), agnostic or athest. It should be noted that 'agnostic' really doesn't discribe someone who is unsure if 'god' exists, but rather it is about theoretical knowability. Theism/atheism is about belief and agnositicm is about (lack of) knowing.
From:	Ramtin	2005-11-15 20:36:32
Subject:	this is another religion
Comment:	Referring to what you said about atheism being a religion, if that is what u meant, is an oxymoron in itself. The prefix 'a' means not, if u attach it to 'theism', it means not religion. Based on the definition of the word, you are false. Get your facts straight.
From:	Hedi	2005-12-18 10:58:38
Subject:	atheism
Comment:	if only we the humans have spend half the time we spend,on science rather to religion,than we can pass on some much more productive debates.
From:	The Serpent	2006-01-03 18:12:30
Subject:	No God?
Comment:	Without God. No heaven, no hell. O.K. No priest, no marraige, no sin, no bastards, no adultry, no 'thou shall not kill', no 'God is on our side', no 'it was God's will', no in courts-swearing to God to tell the truth, no 'he's in a better place now', no 'the Devil made me do it',no 'God speaks to me', and most of all 'Without a God to not to believe in, you cant be an Atheist.'
From:	Roadant	2006-01-30 07:55:55
Subject:	Born without faith in the devine
Comment:	Hey all you belivers out there.. Freud said it best when he described religion as a collection of neurosis. It obvious that religion is a reaction the the inevitable frustrations of the little man. I live by the laws of hedonism, my actions must create the most pleasure and impede pain. If it feels good scratch it, as long as no one is getting hurt. Keep your heads up Atheists, dont let these's ignorant babies get you down.
From:	Michael Bonner	2006-02-13 03:40:00
Subject:	No real proof
Comment:	Let's suppose there is no God. 1)Man does not have the intellect to build another human bein with all the intricate and complex workings of the human body. 2) Scientist have determined the planets, solar systems and galaxies work in a mathematical order. Man does not have the ability to do this as well. 3) When someone is killed is this the end of there prescribed time on earth or is this merely another human being dying by either another human interaction or by there own mishap? I'm not questioning your opinions or other's merely looking for answers or clarity to mine. Either way, no one seems to have the answers. Maybe it was meant to be this way. Maybe we are to barbaric toward each other to be entrusted with such knowledge of life and death and knowing if a higher being exist which effects our lives indirectly but giving us what we call free will. Maybe the answers will be known to us when our existence cease to exist.
From:	Muzz	2006-02-23 11:58:57
Subject:	Atheism
Comment:	You seem to have an interesting view of Religion, although not one I personally share. The idea of Religion being a safety blanket for the weak, something Freud and Nietzsche thought amongst many, seems to me to be fundamentally flawed. A friend of mine who is an atheist, and who I enjoy lively debate with, certainly seems to be the one with the safety blanket. Lets remember what Christianity accounts to, not just a belief but a whole lifestyle. Now lets think of what an atheist accounts to...well not much to be honest. Perhaps it could be argued that it is the atheist who is sticking his/her head under the sand, the atheist who is wishful thinking, the atheist who puts his fingers in his ears while going lalalalala! So convince me, because I feel that you have got this whole idea the wrong way round...now come on lads, heads back under!
From:	Lara	2006-03-28 19:49:02
Subject:	no meaning in life?
Comment:	1.do athiests think that humans are all just a big coinsidence and therefore there is no meaning what so ever in life? 2. what is moral to an athiest? is there moral? or can u do what u want since there is noone to judje u? 3. do people have souls? 4. is there any point in feeling remoorse?
From:	cas	2006-05-13 10:49:00
Subject:	From a pedant.
Comment:	Why is it nobody can spell properly any more?
From:	timextoxlive	2006-08-04 07:21:20
Subject:	religion = the greatest hoax of all time
Comment:	religion is a crutch for those who are to scared or to weak think for themselves. nothing exsists unless you can prove it does.
From:	C	2006-08-09 09:51:02
Subject:	Proper spelling.
Comment:	Those who cannot spell properly have invalidated their arguments.
From:	Tom	2006-09-13 05:54:37
Subject:	atheism
Comment:	I think atheists are just people who like to create themselves. Religious people prefer to be a creation. Since either atheism or religion is dependant on faith, each just has faith in what they naturally prefer.¶ Athiests seem to get a kick out of how brave they are, facing life without a god and all. That's their teddy, their ego. It doesn't take much of a brainiac to figure out that religions are at best metaphorical. That has nothing to do with whether consciousness precedes matter. A rigorous intellect would have to be agnostic, since the idiocy of religions doesn't mean there is no creator. And where is the proof of no god?...there ain't any. Plus I've got a feeling that things are not as they seem. What does one do with such a feeling?¶ And I don't have a problem with occasional misspellings. Part of that is the super-informality of the net. Unless it's really stoopid.
From:	Chilly	2006-09-23 01:05:52
Subject:	Atheism i guess
Comment:	NOw, im not that old, and you know, i havent studied religion, or even read any of the testimates. I am not even going to try to think about reading the bible. Now yes, i am an atheist. I dont think religion is stupid, i just dont think there aucally is something up there. I just dont like the idea of churches. Now, churches are great for yano, getting together with people who belive the same thing, but you cant just go to church and be religious, isnt it a lifestyle or somthing? Like, all those great things like 'thou shalt not kill'. I think thats great, why kill people? But, what REALLY bugs me, is that some religious people think theyre way is the only way, and they want YOU to convert other people. Like, im happy with not beliving we have a purpose. Also, i dont like how people say 'If you dont be religious, you'll go to hell'. I do NOT belive in hell. Hell, i think, was created to make peo[ple scared and make them religious. And thats just wrong. i could say 'If You dont eat apples, and all your teeth will fall out.' That is utterly stupid, but nontheless, if they thought i was smart, they would be like 'oh my, i better eat some apples'. or chain letters. I dont like those either. Hoyl im writing alot. and yes, i cannot spell goodly. and me grammers isnt very goodly either. But, im juust saying, If you are religious, you have to respect other peoples belifs. and i belive there is no god. and thats my choice i guess. TO SUM UP. RELIGION = GREAT WAY TO MAKE PEOPLE BEHAVE, CONVERTING PEOPLE = POO, ATHEISM = OUR CHOICE :D
From:	amir	2006-11-07 08:46:32
Subject:	atheist
Comment:	i fuck god i hate god
From:	kenny Harman	2007-09-23 13:14:10
Subject:	Religion v atheism
Comment:	Hello Jim, The religous life is not for everyone, and by that I mean a life which follows the teaching of Jesus. It can be a playpen or a comfort zone for many, but a deep faith can only be achieved when the self or ego is abolished. A gradual giving up of worldly desires is a good beginning to achieving this. Most people have this yearning to find God but only a few are chosen along this diffcult path. If God chooses you to live this way then it will become obvious over time. Coincidences then come into play. Events in your life seem to have meanings in which God is involved. You can choose not to take them seriously, but God already knows how much suffering you can take. He will test you only so far. He will know if you are serious or not. This path leads to the religous life but it is no comfort to those who follow it. To follow the life of Jesus in your own life is to gradually give up on this world and live in God's heart, but there is no rest here. It means taking on more and more burdens, especially those of your neighbour. The atheist denies the possibility of God. He either believes in nothing or eveything. It makes no difference. He denies himself the chance of a spiritual and contemplative life. He makes his own gods, especially that of money, power, or his ego. All are false gods. One path leads to heaven, one hell. For me hell is the absence of God. Kenny Harman.