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I've Been Ripped Off | 2001-04-15 19:50:47 | | Subject: | Mislead | | Comment: | In my opinion, life is no more than a sick joke.
It is no different than showing a child an ice cube and explaining that this ice cube is the most important thing in the world and to always take care of it and respect it. Then you send the child with the ice cube outdoors to play on a hot July afternoon. | | | | | From: |
Knor | 2001-04-25 02:33:42 | | Subject: | afterlife | | Comment: | One thing disturbs me here: How can you be so sure there is no afterlife? You call religion's idea of the afterlife a hoax, but do you have any evidence for that? And also, you seem to suggest that the idea of 'an afterlife' is inextricably linked to religion, but one doesn't have to be religious to believe in an afterlife or in reincarnation. | | | | | From: |
I've Been Ripped Off | 2001-06-09 11:12:44 | | Subject: | It's the EGO | | Comment: | The stalk of wheat springs from the ground, matures, drops it's seeds and then dies.
Does it then go to the great wheat fields in the sky to live happily ever after, come back next year as a reincarnated stalk of wheat or a field mouse?
You will probably say no. This is because you are human, you are special (EGO).
I have never heard my grandparents, father or friends ever mention their experience of a previous life. You may say that they wouldn't remember it. Then what good is a previous life?
Heaven, what a nice comfortable thought. It helps to fortify that (EGO), I am special, I am important, there is no chance that I will just disappear like the stalk of wheat.
Man is the only animal that can contemplate his own death, because he is a thinking animal. Because he is a thinking animal he must throw his intelligence aside and create fairy tales to protect his (EGO). I am important, I am special, more than any other organisms in the universe. | | | | | From: |
I've Been Ripped Off | 2001-07-13 20:59:57 | | Subject: | Evidence | | Comment: | As you state, saying organisms and other creatures die and humans have never came up with a grand plan for them, is pretty flimsy. Also, for me to state man has an Ego is really taking liberties. I must concede that your evidence (ghost, angels, shafts of light, God etc.)is much more compelling when it comes to evidence. If a person cured their limp by taking a placebo, I surely would be the last one to tell them it was all in their mind. I would encourage them to continue taking the sugar pills. If I am correct in my thinking, you have nothing to worry about and you won't be disappointed, for you will never know. In the mean time, I guess we must have faith and just believe in HIM. | | | | | From: |
No no no - I been ripped off! | 2001-07-17 16:58:37 | | Subject: | Evidence..... | | Comment: | So you are saying that because you people don't remember their previous lives, the whole concept is a simple con. Well well well... do you remember swimming around in your mothers womb? Do you remember the first year of your life in this 'world'? And this Knor person has a good point too. Lack of evidence never sustitutes for evidence, in democratic world we live in anyway. Why OJ Simson was not prosecuted then? You are talking about your beliefs my dear little fellow, and everybody has a right to belive in whatever they want to! In this so called 'democratic' world of ours anyway. | | | | | From: |
I've Been Ripped Off | 2001-07-18 20:25:09 | | Subject: | The right to believe | | Comment: | First of all, let me say that my goal is not to change anyone's mind. To me, the purpose of this forum is a chance for me to learn. As comments I made above show, I am happy for people that have beliefs that help them in their daily lives and in no way would I want to change this. I may have been guilty of some 'tongue-in-cheek' comments and for that I appologize. I am interested in reading the contributions written on this subject. You mentioned evidence and made a tie-in to not remembering being in the mother's womb vrs. not remembering a previous life. No, I don't remember being in my mothers womb, just as I don't remember having a previous life. The difference is, I do know that human life starts in the mother's womb through evidence, even if I can't remember being there myself. I don't remember a previous life, where do I go from here (no evidence)? Just have faith? Also, excuse me, for the OJ comment went over my head, I couldn't make the connection. I would be interested in having it explained to me. I certainly wish my theory to be proven wrong and there is a previous life, afterlife, heaven and a supreme being, for I have an Ego also. | | | | | From: |
foffo | 2001-08-03 14:34:32 | | Subject: | Death | | Comment: | Most of us comes into to this world crying...and some leave it crying... try to laugh now and then, between birth and death pilgrims. | | | | | From: |
I have NOT been ripped off! | 2001-08-03 21:45:22 | | Subject: | The OJ question.... | | Comment: | Well Russell...You say 'I know I was in my mothers womb' but You say 'I don't know the other bit so please convince me'... my question is simple and unfortunatelly has got nothing to do with death so I think it might be wrong to 'post it' here.. how do You 'know'? You seen 'prizma' or what was that films called? 'enigma' ? Oh.. 'Matrix'! How the hell do You know one but not the 'other'? What makes You so sure that You are not living in Holywood 'Matrix' and makes You so arrogant as to claim that You live in your own 'Matrix' and know it very well indeedy deedy? Death is something 'beyond' our brains (since they truly die) so how can You say that your brain (which will die) is the best prove that death is what your brain (which will die) thinks it is. How can You know what there is not something 'beyond' your brain which will not 'die'... You agreed that atoms don't 'die'.. your brain, as well as your body, are made of atoms... You die and live forever? Give me a break! You just said that is impossible! | | | | | From: |
Jeff | 2001-08-21 16:43:00 | | Subject: | Proof that prayer doesn't work | | Comment: | Good point Viper, I can tell you used your brain to the fullest when you made that comment....I think the whole point of the OJ comment was that there was a lot of evidence that 'proved' he was guilty, yet he remains free (in the sense that he is not in jail). Lets end the OJ talk at that!!! I don't think this site was put up to debate religion, but say whatever you have to. Religion in the Christian sense is nothing more than the EGO. Unfortunately we carry the EGO around with us and use it against our own self (mankind). Classic example: Why won't marxism work? The unwillingness for people to accept the fact that nobody is better than anybody else. People who mindlessly follow the herd and accept christianity are not capable of free thinking and therefore probably have nothing too intelligent to say on the meaning of death. Anybody who creates this fasle sense of security in their mind lacks scientific knowledge, and puts themselves above millions of others in this world. The statement 'I'll pray for you.' Tell me if i'm wrong but this shows that you are better than me, and since I am not capable of seeing the light on my own, you will look to God for me. Here is my proof that prayer doesn't work. 'God protect me from your people.' | | | | | From: |
I've Been Ripped Off | 2001-08-27 16:49:37 | | Subject: | futility | | Comment: | Jeff, I don't think your prayer has a prayer's chance.
Even drowning rats know it is useless to call out to each other, that is why each one is preoccupied with their own silent desperation. | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2001-09-17 21:27:37 | | Subject: | Ponder this... | | Comment: | Think about this people, so many of you think philosophically and rationally and are so sure of yourselves. It's simple for many of you. There's nothing after death because I (EGO) believe that I posess the knowledge to understand the biggest of all questions. I (EGO) am so grand that I understand life enough to blurt out what should be the obvious! Science is so full proof that we have no choice but to accept it. Afterall, it has no excuses, :::COUGH:::given enough time, science can explain it:::GAG. Science is presumptuous and cocky enough to believe that it, and man can explain and understand it all. Does that sound anything similar to how many people feel about religion? | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2001-09-17 21:28:08 | | Subject: | Ponder this... | | Comment: | Now to the believers, Heaven and God....previous lives and re-encarnations. And we're so special that we deserve some kind of beautiful afterlife right? Nevermind the bugs and the animals right? Afterall, we humans are so much more important in the grand scheme of the universe. NOT. If theres something after death, it'll be for all of us, including the bugs. Or maybe there just isn't anything. But think of it this way, it won't be so bad, we were non-existant for billions upon billions of years before our births, did it hurt? No. Were you scared? No. As far as you were concerned that was one second. Or nothing at all.
Now everyone.....believers, athiests......have either of you ever thought about the universe and its grand scheme for all of us? Why is there something instead of nothing? I mean, science dictates that it can go either way right? Maybe some big rocks here and there, couple planets, stars maybe...or maybe nothing. But guess what? It not only went our way, the coin flipped, rolled off the table and then did a summersault back on the table. It went through billions of years, threw in planets, stars, threw in something called life, threw in evoultion, a complex machine we call the human body and then threw in consciousness, gravity, basically everything needed to provide the perfect conditions for where we currently sit yacking about how wrong everyone else is. And for what? Nothing right athiests? It's just pure dumb luck. One big fat lucky billion year fart. Or is it? It just happened to go our way. Nothing to something, and what a big fat accidental and coincidental something it is. Or is it? | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2001-09-17 21:46:01 | | Subject: | The Big one | | Comment: | One thing I've always wanted to ask hard core athiests, what drives you? What keeps you going? What do you tell yourselves to get yourself out of bed each morning? Do you realize the severity of your own words? Or are they as empty as your thoughts of god or an afterlife? Do you REALLY think about what you imply? Or do you simply spend your quiet moments wondering how to convince everyone else of how you feel? Do you realize the implications of what you say upon your own self? You realize you'll one day have to bury your loved ones and then die yourselves right? Never to see them again. Nevermind if you won't care once you're dead, you care now? Don't you? That you'll NEVER seem them again. Or is it something you don't think about? How deep are you really? Maybe not as much as you thought...... | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2001-09-17 21:51:57 | | Subject: | The Big one | | Comment: | I'm not saying I'm a believer, there's too much rationality in me to be so blind, but science isn't the end of all things. Afterall, it came from something flawed, US. Science is our term for explaining the universe around us and ourselves. But it comes from something not capable of grasping it all. And it would be EGOTISTICAL to believe we could. There's too much Science doesn't know about the human mind to have the final word. Afterall, a thousand years ago they thought they had it all figured out, just like we do. Right? The human brain is STILL a mystery people. We only use 10% of it. Ever wonder what the extra stuff is for? Just leftovers right? Another universal fart. Which may just end up being more than we ever believed it to be. | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2001-09-17 22:00:05 | | Subject: | Last one for now | | Comment: | Just for kicks, any of you ever hear of chi? Where you can actually produce heat capable of burning from nothing but your hands There's more to it but that's what impressed me. Or this other Indigenous training that allows one to control actual swelling and bleeding from a wound. Maybe some of you guys have seen it on TV. Looked fairly authentic, a guy punches a hook in his gut, it bleeds a little, he pulls it out, and it doesn't swell or continue to bleed. Pretty big hook too, just some interesting things to share. | | | | | From: |
snail | 2001-12-04 18:11:30 | | Subject: | I agree with Jeff | | Comment: | I am appealed by the quality of this so called 'religious' discussion. I entirely agree with Jeff - this site was not put up to debate religion, but to say whatever one has to say. That's all I have to say. Thank you. | | | | | From: |
An | 2001-12-08 06:17:15 | | Subject: | The Meaning of Death | | Comment: | It was my birthday yesterday. | | | | | From: |
Micah | 2002-09-14 01:41:51 | | Subject: | It's the concept | | Comment: | Death itself isn't scary at all. It's as if we go to sleep and never wake up. It's very similar to sleep, without the dreaming. It is pure nothingness, and it is irrational to fear what cannot exist while we do. However, the CONCEPT of dying is very scary. True, I myself was dead for countless years before I was alive, but all I know now is consciousness. Without it, I am nothing, and to a human being, that can be a very scary thought. | | | | | From: |
Carl Rofe | 2002-09-24 20:09:16 | | Subject: | Afterlife | | Comment: | Interesting!...your thoughts on AFTERLIFE. Don't people make SO many assumptions!?
One thing that interests me the most this that it DOESN'T seem like most people prefer to assocaited the after life with science...prefer to stick to religious concepts!
I watched part of the show 'Crossin Jordan', and can see how it is SCIENTIFICALLY possible to achieve such things; people either...no offence...don't have the brains to see it, or the evidence crawls between their legs without notice. You CAN explain everything, even if you need ILLOGICAL concept to do so...becaue illogic ISN'T always illogical!; you can't explain an apple with a pear! Your comments are interesting, but you assume people need evidence to prove things; what if it's SELF-EVIDENT.
Anyway...I think that's enough stirring of the cauldron for now. | | | | | From: |
Carl Rofe | 2002-09-24 21:18:47 | | Subject: | Statement about freedom of speech | | Comment: | Okay...so I admit that my comments are either bizarre, not the right thing to say, against popular belief, or whatever; the only thing I can say to that is that I can think like that!! You might think it implies a higher level of understanding than most people want to think about (that would be psychological bragging...I also admit), but anyway, it's just a point of view...for all I know (when people read this) they may thank me (have insight), or be disgusted (because they are thinking along one line)...I don't care either way...
I noticed in the comments that some people THINK other people have no right to say somethings...let me add that that's YOUR opinion! Everyone can say anything! The only thing holding your thoughts back its the thought that you might break the law! Hey...that's society for you! Lack of freedom of opinion/speech! Do you think I care about what I should and shouldn't say at anyone time...not really...why...because what I say is directly influenced by the way I have been brought up! And it's also one opinion of over 6 billion opinions...so...(if you are willing to take on the moral/ethical idea of society)...I can say what I want when I want because...simply...I can!
You don't need 'guts' to stay it...and you feelings and emotions let you down! Idea...if you want to challenge something in society...just think 'oh f**k you society!!!' And blood well say it!!...it's your bloody say!! Maybe you'll inspire people...who knows!
...just a thought...because society wears a 'collar'...why don't you take yours off for once!? | | | | | From: |
Eduardo Chang | 2003-01-10 17:14:50 | | Subject: | The Beauty Of Death | | Comment: | Many people fear death and i must admit this is a scary scary concept but after some thinking i have made my conclusions.
Many people are scared of death because they are not satisfied with the time on this planet, they wish to 'Live more'. They refuse to leave this world maybe because of their greed. They saw the beautiful things that can be achieved in life such as love, friendship, being a kid, fun, sadness, etc. After experiencing all these pleasures people want more and more maybe it is their endorphines, i dont know. But i have concluded with a more positive outlook on death.
Death is not the end but a summary, the best part. I think it has been proven that near death the brain remembers everything that occured in that person's life. But even if that is false people must and probably will remember the good times in their life and all the pleasures, such as | | | | | From: |
Eduardo Chang | 2003-01-10 17:15:35 | | Subject: | The Beauty of Death (Cont) | | Comment: | the good times you had being a kid,
having your first kiss,
having the loving family that looked after you when you where a kid,
all the fun times you had with your friends,
all the artistically beautiful compositions of nature you have witnessed,
all the poetically beautiful songs and words that you have heard into bliss,
the very special moment of renouncing virginity,
the magical moment that occured as you fell love,
The oath you took as to live in love,
Your first glance at a truely innocent life,
All the fun times you have had with your family,
All the different social atmospheres you have expierenced,
The architectural beauty of the world,
The fun you had with your grandkids,
All that you have learned and experienced,
All the hard times you have accomplished,
And whats more you did it your way. (Frank Sinatra) | | | | | From: |
Eduardo Chang | 2003-01-10 17:17:08 | | Subject: | The Beauty of Death (Cont 2) | | Comment: | So see many of us want to be a kid again or relive those magical momements of your life but the only time for that is when your an old man/woman at the verge of his/her death. That is the true meaning of life and only then will we understand our true purpose here on earth. I leave you with this knowledge that i have learned and i have learned this simply by seeing myself when i am old . When i do become old i will be more then satisfied as the same tears of happiness run down my face as they are now. So make your 'summary' all the more magical while possible. | | | | | From: |
Eduardo Chang | 2003-01-11 02:05:46 | | Subject: | Afterlife | | Comment: | 2 Micah: Not only humans but animals alike. :D Assuming there IS a place after death... OK I would like you theist to please explain to me then what is the point in death? If there is an after life... Then why have death? Why not just have immortal life? And may you theist please explain to me on how you aquired the information on the existence of a place for dead people when it is EXCLUSIVELY for DEAD PEOPLE? | | | | | From: |
I've Been Ripped Off | 2003-02-09 10:15:08 | | Subject: | Another Ego Victim | | Comment: | Many, many words. Out of desparation, we must put a pretty face on it, 'SUMMARY', the EGO demands it. When you reach your middle 60's, it finally dawns on you, there is nothing to say, there is nothing to do, 'QUIET DESPERATION'. 0+0=0. | | | | | From: |
l | 2003-04-02 01:31:46 | | Subject: | death and the z axis | | Comment: | You equate death to destruction. The computer example represents 'something' that is no longer useable. The 'body' decomposes and is no longer useable as I understand your philosophy.
When life is brought about, all of us live in the x and y axis. It is predictable, reliable (maybe), tribal (because it is used within a group), historical, on and on. But when someone says why? The why creates thought, the unknown, the curious, the inquisitive. It is the helicopter that flies into the 3rd dimension, the z axis, that no one else can or wants to do. Vietnam. The psychos are the ones who flew helicopters. They had a feel for realitivity that so many others could not, did not want. They had a 'sense' they could not explain, only do. It is a select few who know 'they are an old soul', for they have lived death, time and time again. So death is not final for some of us. We have taken an opportunity to ask 'why?', to be curious, to ask questions, RATHER than be satisfied with everyone elses answers. | | | | | From: |
maria | 2003-05-23 13:49:18 | | Subject: | hmmmm | | Comment: | Your statement is so totally ludicrous. How dare you compare a human being to a machine?! The human body is much more complex than any machine and as far as the spirit or soul is concerned, it is far more complex than we ever imagined. Scientists can't even figure it out. I respect your opinion on believing that there is no life after death even though I do think otherwise. I do believe That something else is out there. Maybe another dimension. To some known as the spirit world. To others known as heaven. Or maybe even space. What some people call spirits, others call energy. We are energy that lives on even after the body dies. Where the energy goes, I don't know. Maybe it just goes everywhere. Think about it.
P.S.-animals or 'mammals' also contain energy that lives on and on and on and on and on.....hahaha | | | | | From: |
maria | 2003-05-23 13:58:18 | | Subject: | one more thing | | Comment: | The law of energy states; 'Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, only changed in form.' This means that we as energy, are now, always have been, and always will be! We never really die. | | | | | From: |
I've been ripped off | 2003-06-08 14:06:58 | | Subject: | Human/Machine | | Comment: | How can anyone compare a 'human being' with a machine? For the machine is not contaminated with an EGO.
It was nice having the 'law of energy' explained, even though every student by the sixth grade has been exposed to this. Of course the EGO assumes that others are deficient in this area.
If a person, through some unfortunate circumstance, is required to have their right arm amputated, I am sure that they can take some solace in the fact that the atoms or energy contained in that arm will live on for ever.
When the Machine and the 'Human Being' meet their final demise and don't work any more, they both end up in that great landfill on earth where their energy will live on and on and on and on and on.....hahaha.
The only difference, the human's EGO has figured out in advance, that this will give them some sort of advantage and they will be happy and content for all of eternity.
After all, the EGO tells you that 'YOU are SPECIAL', 'YOU are GREAT' and 'YOU' will never end up being nothing, zip or a zero.
'Yes, Marie, there is a Santa Claus' (after life). | | | | | From: |
Clayton Carter | 2003-09-05 18:32:15 | | Subject: | When I die I want a pony | | Comment: | Evidence can only get us so far. The evidence of no life after death is well nothing at all, because if there was no life after death then we would never be given any other evidence than nothing at all. With respect towards the scientific community they can clearly conclude conscienceness is a result of brain activity, and in death there is none. As far as evidece that there is life after death faith must be taken into account. Faith that every instance of a brush with the other side has another, more plausable, explantation which must be an incorrect interpretation of the experience. Faith in the eternal soul also is needed. And for me, faith is a poor foundation to build a house, I need concrete or at least the faith that when I build my house there will be concrete to build it upon. So I don't believe in life after death, I believe true death is kinda like those nights when you fall asleep and wake up hours later, and it feels like you just closed your eyes. Death is a loss of conscienceness. | | | | | From: |
sakuden | 2003-10-27 09:51:01 | | Subject: | death | | Comment: | everyone thinks life has a meaning, IT DOESNT get a fucking life you are not here to be some guy or girl that thinks their life is worth all that you did in it. once you get to the age of death then you realize that your life had no meaning and that your going die with no meaning. in all religions to die with no meaning is bad and you will go to hell, all wrong when you die there isw no heavenly place for us all to meet. we will all face the same cold dark places in are coffins and yet you believe. all you people that believe in the greater good and that heaven only lets those who believe and are good. get your heads outta your asses cause its not going to happen . retards that live their live hoping that god or who ever they believe in will forgive them for all their sins well guess what there is no god he abandind you in this world of hate and evil for a reason. he hates you. thats all for now but if i see any 'god loves me or WWJD' im going to ripp the stickers and piss on them you freaks of nature you have no overlord it just shows how easyly you can be manipulated.RETARDS | | | | | From: |
Clayton Carter | 2003-11-07 13:42:53 | | Subject: | back from the dead | | Comment: | Some people are really angry at god here, and I don't understand why, if there isn't a god, then there never was a god, and people try to make god seem less than what it is. God is action and reaction, the 'destiny' of the universe. Everything that will ever happen can be completely predicted if you can account for and properly interperate each reaction that will lead to that point based on the actions that have preceeded that moment in time. I am a materialist of a specific kind. So when I die the lights go out. I don't know what all this Z-axis talk is. the Z-axis is the third spatial dimension we live in it, as well as a proven total 13 dimensions. There isn't a death dimension for my eternal soul to exist that would be with out understanding of current science today. I can't understand why people argue against science. It is fact, only truth, or perhaps better put as the pursute of understanding how reality IS. There are things that 'are', and nothing that 'isn't'. Everything that exists exists for a reason, a purpose, (although unintentional) they are all carrying out some action fueling the universe. Everything that is real is needed. And yet many hold the assumption that something which is not real and not necessary for the functioning of the universe exists. Whatever man, whatever. | | | | | From: |
Ivan | 2003-11-12 04:47:23 | | Subject: | afterlife | | Comment: | you know i was thinking, what do chrstians perceive to be what afterlife is like? if we lal go to heaven/hell, then its reasonable to assume all other life goes to heaven or hell too. it would be pretty boring otherwise. and if everything goes ot heaven/hell. how would it be any different to life? we may not have to eat, crap, work etc. if we dont want to but we'd get pretty bored after a hwile. what exactly is theis ultimate great happiness/truth you hope to find? | | | | | From: |
sickboy | 2003-12-17 17:34:05 | | Subject: | just a thought | | Comment: | To science believers: about 500 years ago, science believers like yourselves believed that the world is flat, none of them could be convinced of other wise until some french guy went touring around the world.
To religious believers: just because you believe it is so, doesn't necessary make it so.
To all: just because it is beyond your own ways of explaining how things are and how things work, doesn't mean it's completely utterly impossible for you to accept the possiblity of the complete opposite of what you think and what you believe | | | | | From: |
sickboy | 2003-12-17 17:41:55 | | Subject: | just a thought | | Comment: | and by 'accepting the possible' i do not mean you have to believe in it, just allow the possiblity to happen should it happen. take for example, if you've never experience meeting a cow in your entire life, and you sooooooo convince that there is no cow, when you actually see one, can you possibly explain its existence? death is a word, it's the idea of non-existing that drives us up the wall. and yeah, the guy with the EGO talk, maybe you're right, but to exclude absolutely and completely about the life having a meaning or the existence of an after life? that's pretty much non-scientific, isn't it? Darwin didn't just exclude the possibility of evolution at first go, he thought about it, then explore on it, before conclusion | | | | | From: |
Smnp7 | 2004-01-22 04:29:11 | | Subject: | This can't be right. | | Comment: | It doesn't sound right. I really don't think it does. We may be creatures, mere organisms with big brains that lets us think about things. Well, it's true, that's what we are. But we're not just that, that's just the cup.
According to your theory, there is no tea in that cup. According to your theory, we are alive because we gradually evolved from the tiniest organism for the sheer hell of it. Each to his own, but I don't want to think that I am alive because nature wants me to, I won't accept that.
If you think that our thoughts and emotions and energies shrivel up and vanish into nothingness, of course you have every right to believe that. That we have no soul. Tell me, have you any evidence that there is _no_ afterlife? I want to have a reason to live. You are almost saying that there is no reason, no meaning to life. Why don't you just kill yourself, end the living hell that you make life out to be?
Because of your soul. And the greater force, no matter what it is, that wishes that you remain living to learn your lesson and perform your duty. But, each to his own. | | | | | From: |
Speedster | 2004-01-22 05:10:35 | | Subject: | HAHA | | Comment: | JOO GOT OWNED BY TEH SMNP7!!! | | | | | From: |
Dakota | 2004-03-08 02:02:46 | | Subject: | Death | | Comment: | I think that your opinion of death is very inaccurate. You can not say there is no afterlife, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW! | | | | | From: |
shane | 2004-04-12 00:57:10 | | Subject: | death | | Comment: | i think rather than wondering about what might happen after death or what has happend before life, we should look at what is certain 1) we WILL all die, in this we are equal.
2) NO-ONE really knows whats after death
whats the point in even thinking about death cos it will come to us all any way. then we will all know.
simply accept it and untill then happy living guys. | | | | | From: |
jerry | 2004-06-27 23:55:06 | | Subject: | the most important question | | Comment: | who really knows anything about death? we don't really know anything about life. these are the biggest questions we face as human beings. all i know is there is a source to all of this. and maybe we'll never get the answers we're looking for. :-/ | | | | | From: |
Aging Christian | 2004-07-13 19:19:37 | | Subject: | Your website and all it entails | | Comment: | Obviously,you are an intelligent person for the times.
Unfortunately,your thinking has become twisted by modern
living,or by some force which belies the existance of an
entity which created all things. The term 'CREATOR' simply
means one who makes things such as a father made you with
the life force imminating from he who CREATED all things.
Perhaps,just perhaps, those of YOUR AGE may live to see the
POWER which comes from that creator.Keep on with your line
of thinking and your philosophy of no life after death will
most certainly COME TRUE.
Best get right with that ALL POWERFUL CREATOR!!! | | | | | From: |
Kyason | 2004-07-31 12:51:24 | | Subject: | So u want to know 'THE MEANING OF LIFE' | | Comment: | This is a very confused subject, Let me make it simple for U. THE MEANING OF LIFE, is not to spend your existance wanting to know the meaning. If u think about it....U can find the meaning by brakeing it down in your own mind.
THE MEANING OF LIFE IS-----TO GIVE YOUR SELF MEANING! | | | | | From: |
Jessie | 2005-01-19 01:01:16 | | Subject: | Death | | Comment: | Im one of thsoe people who IS in fact scared of the unknown, but when I think of death I dont at all feel uneasy or scared in the least because I know that death doesnt mean that we just close our eyes and rot in the ground, I dont believe that death is the end nor will any scientists or philosophers convince me of this. | | | | | From: |
Lloyd | 2005-01-30 06:54:37 | | Subject: | Eternal Life | | Comment: | My mother once said, when I told her I wished people didn't die, 'Would you really want to live forever?'
Think about it. At least concerning life on earth, isn't it better to eventually drift off into an endless sleep? | | | | | From: |
Ramtin | 2005-03-16 14:41:34 | | Subject: | The Big One | | Comment: | ok, now i understand what Jessie said and completely disagree, first of all when your loved ones die and you have to bury them you have to deal with that. Secondly, the truth drives me (I'm an atheist). If someone is so delicate that they can't deal with death that is their problem because death is a part of life. If you don't want to deal with that fact then you might as well not live out your life. I know that people will die and it doesn't matter. If you truly know how to deal with death you will understand that the memory you possess of them is all that matters because those stay forever golden. What's the point of living if you think about death constantly. Now, you shouldn't bother replying to this because I never get on this forum. Also religion is way to vague to explain the human mind, science does a much better job. At the mind and the universes creation, but what it all comes down to is no one knows for sure, it's all just theory. Science is the only thing that comes close and that should enough. Religion in my opinion has more bad effects than good, religious differences have been the cause of millions of deaths throughout history. But it also drives people to do good because they believe they will get into heaven. Though it would be nice if people did good just out of their morales or the sheer good of their heart, but this is a futile request, because the world will always be controlled by the government (which i hate primarily because Bush is in power) and you cannot trust politicians. Anyways I'm done for now. | | | | | From: |
Kali | 2005-03-20 03:19:24 | | Subject: | ONCE again What I've Read | | Comment: | Okay second time I've closed out on accident. Grr. Once again going from what I remember.
In my opinion religion is something that was created to give people a concept on how we were created and what happens after we die. But what about atheists? The reason I'm an atheist is because I don't think a divine figure created us. I mean why? Why did this divine figure decide 'Hey! I'll make an endless amount of things that look like me and see what they do!' Anyway the main thing I want to talk about is what happens when we die. Someone I know says the body rots in the ground and the soul is a secression of the body. My opinion is slightly different from that. Yes the body does rot in the ground, but what about the soul? I think the soul plays a huge part in Life and Death. My father told me once what he saw when he saw someone die. Somthing LEFT the body. My opinion: the soul. And where it goes I'm not sure. After reading His Dark Material Trilogy (the third one was really philosophical) My theory is leaning towards the soul splits into what the author (Phillip Pullman) calls Dark Matter (or the Ghost as I like to say) and creates living things or nourishes living things. Why this happens is still a mystery to me. But Ramtin is right--Life and Death go together better than Ying and Yang. If you can't except Death then you might as well live w/o a Life.
Life and Death are what us living things can't fully understand (as Jessie wrote. Which is true). And some people say we'll learn everything about it when we die. Well that's useless. What are we gonna do about it? We're dead. Some people say our souls live on or learn about everything ever. I don't think so. The soul disperses and doesn't learn or live or anything. It's gone.
Okay I'm done. Bai! | | | | | From: |
frank | 2005-05-09 11:54:17 | | Subject: | re: I've been ripped off | | Comment: | religion has never cured or fixed anything. it's just a collection of ideas/myths-it doesn't exist as a physical entity or set of objects. | | | | | From: |
frank | 2005-05-09 11:59:55 | | Subject: | re:last one for now | | Comment: | don't believe anything you see on tv!!! | | | | | From: |
Courty | 2005-07-12 05:18:44 | | Subject: | it's very beautiful over there | | Comment: | kali makes the most sense to me. someone mentioned earlier the law of conservation of energy that says energy cannot be created or destroyed. a law that i'm sure everyone knows from some science class they've been to years ago. there is a part of people, lets say kali's soul theory, that's greater than the sum of our knowable parts. it has to go somewhere doesnt it? it can't be destroyed. what i think is that there is an afterlife. somewhere where 'souls' can rest in peace. maybe the christian ideax of heaven and hell arent so ridiculous they're just mislead. maybe this world is our labyrinth of suffering, or hell, and afterlife is a place where our souls are to be peaceful after our death, or heaven. to quote the last paragraph of Looking for Alaska, a book i read, 'thomas edison's last words were: 'It's very beautiful over there.' i don't know where there is, but i believe it's somewhere, and i hope it's beautiful.' | | | | | From: |
bob | 2005-11-27 13:45:09 | | Subject: | this website | | Comment: | its crap ive been ripped off ive wasted 10mins of my life to find out that some sad sadistic twat wants to tell everyone that in the end were all meaningless and replacible. | | | | | From: |
Muslimka | 2006-02-20 07:34:00 | | Subject: | you're not right! | | Comment: | there is God and life after life and this is true.Disbelievers are only afraid ond weak to realize this.
peace with you! | | | | | From: |
Rob | 2006-06-13 17:23:39 | | Subject: | death | | Comment: | I you are given the choice to drink one cup of coffe out of two cups offered to you for $10,000,000 after they have explaine to you that one of the cups contains a poison that will kill you in 20 second, and after the cups hav been swirled aroung a table so you don't know which cup contains the poison. Would drink one of these cups?
The trut is I wold not since I could drink the poison and not enjoy the $10,000,000. I look a death the same way, the real and honest answer is.. I don't know if your existance ends on the other side, after all the program is the essence, pehaps the programs survive and somewhere somehow, it enters another computer to run again. | | | | | From: |
Jacques Fasquelle | 2006-06-26 06:18:45 | | Subject: | belief in God | | Comment: | I rather believe in God then die and find out He is not there
than not believe in God and then find out He is there...
What is wrong with admitting tha I don't know instead of acertain what I really don;t know so if you can't say that there is a God and an after life how can you say that ther is not? | | | | | From: |
stranger | 2006-10-10 06:57:41 | | Subject: | What? | | Comment: | what have you got goin on?there is an afterlife.If your saved by God,you go to Heaven and live in peace for eternity.If your lost,you go to hell and burn for eternity.Just read the Bible and it tells you. | | | | | From: |
johnny appleseed | 2007-02-25 07:26:14 | | Subject: | im still alive | | Comment: | i killed myself last night can anybody read this. | | | | | From: |
Adeleke Fakoya, PhD | 2007-03-24 17:35:02 | | Subject: | death, afterlife, judgement | | Comment: | Sirs, it's quite a good thing to have a site but to use it to mislead fellow humans is, to me, worse that all your mis-pontification on death and afterlife. Well, so that you may know what's what, why not ask God (through his son, Jesus Christ) to send his Holy Spirit to breathe the real breath of life into you, to open your mind's eye, and to enable you to know the difference between life and meaningful living. I suppose you're even one of the few blessed by the Hand that created the universe. Why not thank the Brain behind that Hand and ask Him to create in you a new heart to allow the truth about life to come into you? Pray all these simple requests in the name of Jesus. If nothing results after numerous attempts to know the truth, please let me know. But do give God a chance: you will know what happens to your spirit, and to your soul after death. | | | | | From: |
Jessica | 2007-04-26 05:17:04 | | Subject: | The universe is too perfect | | Comment: | Ahhhh Philosophers!! What to do with you people. You know, I really didn't plan on posting but a few comments have cought my eye since then. First and foremost, I want to state that I am a believer of the one and only Jesus Christ. Yes, cringe people, I happen to be a Christian. But I know exactly how many of you think. 'Yeah, sure, she only thinks one way and is hardly interested that there might be other possibilties'. Wrong!! I went through doubts myself. But I have to say that logically the Bible makes the most sense. There is no reencarnation or previous life. And to think that there is no God in this universe if just ingnorant. We aren't computers or programs that just suddenly shut down. How can people except that theory when you have so many memories of this life. Surely the supreme being made his creations out of love and not ammusement. He doesn't throw us away as soon as these temporary bodies have been worn out. He has more for us. This is mearly a testing ground. Then if you want to look at it more scientifically, the world is too perfect to have just appeared out of some big boom theory. Think about it. The world and nature have been so perfectly puzzled together that there has to be someone mighty beyond all belief involved. Try to be open minded. Think about the air you breath. Who made it breathable. The water you drink.... The way a baby grows in a mothers womb. DNA plays a mearly small part of it which is also too perfect to have made itself. God makes this all possible. May Jesus bless you all imensely and fill your lives with love. May you see the truth.
Jessica, 17 yrs. | | | | | From: |
Ramtin | 2007-05-19 06:01:57 | | Subject: | to jessica | | Comment: | That statement you made about how air is created just is just mindboggling. First of all, the world is not perfect, its been led to how it is today through hundreds of millions of years of natural selection and intricate food chains and webs. The world's species will continue to change due to circumstance on its surface. To get back to air, air is a pairing of Oxygen atoms to other Oxygen atoms. There is mystery to it. It is simply caused by electronegative forces between atoms of any type. | | | | | From: |
aaron | 2007-06-06 20:21:36 | | Subject: | afterlife | | Comment: | before were born were dead we are nothingness we have no mind, we dont exist. no beliefs, fears, or happiness so we dont know how it feels to not exist because we dont!.
but because when we are born an alive we have all of that and soon understand how it'd feel to lose everything! and to not exist all we know now is how to live.
so deep down noone wants to lose our lifes (unless sucide depressed people which are confused or mentally ill which wouldn't or clearly think properly).
everyone fears what they dont know (fact).
we know only how to live, not to not exist.
most of us here feel were not ready to die anytime soon so were scared of what will happen.
i assume deep down everyone does want there to be an afterlife (even if they understand there isnt) because i assume everyone thinks when you die youll have your dreams still. you can hear and see how people feel about the loss of you.
but when you relise that wont happen you fear death, you dont want to die. you dont want to not exist you want to have memorys and feelings.
at the end of the day its not afterlife that people care about its the not knowning the facts(truths) about what happens when you die.
if we knew as a fact, and taught all born humans at a young age what happens when you die. i think everyone would accept it. and understand its just the cycle of living organisms.
i personally dont want to die if it means i lose my memorys and feelings. thats what it comes down to me.
i really want to know what everyone thinks that reads this. thanks | | | | | From: |
k | 2007-07-17 05:08:40 | | Subject: | wow | | Comment: | If only there was an afterlife nobody would truly have to deal directly with death. An eternal afterlife seems to only be an unreal fantasy that is the product of one not able to cope with death. I wish I could believe that an afterlife exists (even if it doesn't), but somewhere down the line, random people have shown up on the earth and gotten people to believe in some sort of a god. Today people just aren't easily fooled, and if you asked most people anonymously whether they really believed in the existence of a god they would say no. It is difficult to come to grips with the fact that you will one day die and simply not be able to experience pain or happiness. not even nothingness. The fact that you have 80 + - years to simply exist raises questions about whether you are living life to the fullest. | | | | | From: |
a | 2007-08-01 07:37:29 | | Subject: | a | | Comment: | i agree with comment posted by K, very true. | | | | | From: |
Brian Faulkner | 2008-09-11 10:48:34 | | Subject: | Death | | Comment: | Death surrounds us at all times and the dead speak, do we have the time to listen?
Are we just too busy with being to hear what they say?
In an infinite Universe anything is possible, even that the living are dead and the dead are living......
There are no boundaries, only the limitations of ourselves.....
Dare to dream and dare to accept, transcend illusion, believe nothing and everthing is believable..... | | | | | From: |
Poop | 2009-02-20 05:07:27 | | Subject: | Poop | | Comment: | Your reasoning sucks balls. I'm not a robot. | | | | | From: |
bash | 2009-11-09 06:29:28 | | Subject: | Dude | | Comment: | In my opinion death is a beautiful and expensive gift ever given to human being.Try to imagine if there was no death and the ratio of sadness and happiness thats exist in our life you will realise that happiness last shortly.May b the issue of after life thats if u hv faith,then death will mean to you more than just a phsycal death n for we believers n for the things thats happen and are continuing to happen in our life then death is just a transporter to the after life on earth and we have to love it and thats that. | | | |
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