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From:	jake	2001-02-08 10:17:20
Subject:	god or no god
Comment:	I would just like to point out the fact that god doesn't neccesarily come with all religions.christianity is I agree way off the mark, to believe in an almighty omnipotent being just because thats what you're told is obviously crap.But buddhists have no god, they only have the truth,Buddhism teaches us how to see the world as it actually is, not as it seems to us to be in our cluttered, chatty, one sided minds.Some religions have alot to teach and if at some point you don't at least have a look into it I feel you will only do yourself harm
From:	Yes - Me again!	2001-03-02 22:19:03
Subject:	Iso did it again
Comment:	Iso directed me here.... I am not sure whether he had good or bad intentions... One can never tell when iso enters the arena of life..... the gist I guess is: 'isolani(103): I bought some Nescafe and drank some earlier this evening. I'm livid. I'm awake like a live wire.' So there! God is within us after all!
From:	Chris	2001-03-02 23:04:09
Subject:	religion- well thought-out schemes
Comment:	Nice preamble to more substantive stuff from the eadon-meister. Just like a Christian though, you see how you are, you fish people in with your facile entre-acte you cad. The ol' Moony shuffle. 'Oh gee, I don't know about God much but here's my initial opinion...' you humbly state. Then advise us to click to the next arena. Ha! I see your plan.
From:	foffo	2001-05-06 14:04:06
Subject:	Religion??
Comment:	Belive and be saved the minister said, Belive and be saved and rise from the dead. Through grace ye are saved from sin and from hell, So simply belive and all will be well. The preacher continued and read from the book, How all can reach heaven, both angel and crook. When all had been said and the church recessed; With money collected and everyone blessed, The preacher retired to his spacious new home, In his humble Mercedes with everything chrom. He sat in his study, his thoughts running deep, He dozed for a moment, and died in his sleep. He ran to Saint Peter and wearing a grim, Said 'I belive in the Savior so please let me in. Oh no, not another; Saint Peter with a sigh, Satan's sure working the tolls running high'. The preacher looked puzzled, then saw in a flash. The plan of salvation beginning at last. Beliving is nothing, if nothing is done. In getting to Heaven you follow the Son. To follow a leader, you do what is said, Faith without works is nothing but dead. Satan knows Jesus, belives in him too. So what's the diffrence between Satan and you? Belive in the Savior, but always recall,Faith is important, but sure isn't all.
From:	MadPool	2001-07-16 18:37:23
Subject:	Meaning.....
Comment:	'To understand the real 'Meaning of Life', we should start by examining the boundary conditions of life.' Eadon tells us and I, for one, strongly disagree. If Eadon really wants to be scientific and precise about the subject, he should examine what the word 'meaning' means. Here is what I found: 'To be used to convey; denote; to intend to convey or indicate; to have as a purpose or an intention; to have the importance or value of; to design, intend, or destine for a certain purpose or end' Sounds like a perfect definition of religion to me! So what is Eadon trying to examine here? Real Religion of life? And let me tell ya one other thing my son:
From:	Muddy Pudle	2001-07-16 19:41:23
Subject:	One other thing
Comment:	Eadon set himself here very demanding and noble task here. It appears that Eadon decided to examine all the ideas and concepts he does not believe in, hoping that by doing so he will be left with the Real and Pure meaning of his existence. He examines in depth the nature of human brain, the tricks it plays on us, he questions our beliefs, concepts, ideas and subjective experiences. Of course, the concept of arriving at so called 'Truth' by process of eliminating all the illusions one's mind, brain and visual cortex produce is very popular in most religions. Has Eadon shaved his head off and spends his time joyfully chanting 'Hare Krisha' on the streets of NewPort I wonder?
From:	Saint Ladwig	2001-07-31 03:25:21
Subject:	My love is more pure than god's
Comment:	Any atheist who does a good deed is better than any theist who does the same deed. Why you ask? Without being totally aware, a theist is doing good deeds expecting to go to heaven for it, while an atheist is doing it just because he/she realizes it is the right thing to do. This is because atheists make their choices by how they like to be treated rather than by what something says on an outdated piece of paper. Here is one of Saint Ladwig’s prophecies: “My love is more pure than god’s.” If someone does not believe in god, they are sent (supposedly) to suffer and burn and choke till the end of time. If I had a son and he did not believe I was his father no matter how much proof I demonstrated, I would still love him so much that I would want him to be as happy as he could be till the end of time. This shows, as a human, I am kinder, more forgiving, and more loving than your so-called god. Ladwig has spoken!
From:	Dr. Krool	2001-10-01 02:11:11
Subject:	I believe in GOD, but not in religion!
Comment:	When I first came to 'http://www.eadon.com/phil/religion.php' this page, i decided to take the survey, but then i decided not to, because it Title says: Do you believe in a god/gods? The answer to that is that I do believe in God, but when i decided to vote, it said: 10 = Religios. But I don't believe in religion. There is no way I could complete that survey. So..., Plese consider this comment and revise the question. I am doing a paper in my english class, and my thesis statement is that It is possible to belive in God and not belive in religion and it is also possible to be religious and not believe in God. I need some suggestions...if you guys can help me out a bit. I am willing to hear both sides, even those opposing my thesis statement.
From:	Nicky	2001-10-18 07:20:06
Subject:	Nice one!
Comment:	Jim, You are, as ever, correct about religion, the reasons why people believe in it and why it is all a falsehood. One of my favourites is Godel's theorem - it shows that that there would always be mathematical truths that would not be proved by logic and not only demonstrates that Mathematics is a religion, but also shows that Mathematics is the only religion that can prove itself to be one. Long live science and reasoning over unproveable suppositions!
From:	AJ	2001-10-21 16:42:14
Subject:	Keep it simple
Comment:	Life is complex and complicated enough without god. Let us quit passing the buck and realize humans have to decide right and wrong and make life worth living. As to purpose, there is none that we don't generate. The persons who actually perceive the reality of life wind up suicides or mental patients. Some are stronger than others and if the fantasy of religion keeps you from the nut house or from offing yourself, who am i to argue. ajm
From:	buddha	2001-12-08 06:11:15
Subject:	Gods...
Comment:	'Why invoke a singleton god, and not have a family or entire swarms of gods?' Eadon prays... well.. if he was Indian or Hindu...or perhaps studied his subject before opening his mouth.... he would discover that we Indians have MILLIONS of Gods.. some are drunks, some are womenizers, some are 'bad' guys... some are lousy women... I mean...Watch one of the 3 millions films we produce each year damn it! I get it.. You don't have time to do that because You are too busy writing stupid articles about 'God' You know nothing about, right?!!!
From:	James	2002-01-18 09:04:58
Subject:	Robert has a dirty mouth
Comment:	Mr E, I sincerely hope that God will have time to wash Robert's mouth out with soapy water when he comes back to save us. Personally I agree with everything you say. Religion is a means for the superstitious to explain away difficult to understand issues without having to go to the time and expense of finding things out properly. Everything has an explanation if you look. To simply say 'Oh, thats all down to the fictional bloke in beard and sandals' is not good enough.
From:	Rev Ed Goldberg Interfaith	2002-02-27 20:03:28
Subject:	on religion
Comment:	Very much like an ethical culture approach to a humanist religion. With more thought your thessis may evolve into a masterpiece for the unblieving.
From:	XxDoubleHelixX	2002-07-02 13:10:02
Subject:	ok...
Comment:	So, that pentagon bible was specical? What makes the ones I burn lesser compaired to that one? Oh shit I forgot, might it be the updated versions don't have fire wards... Immortality is just a genetic code away:)
From:	XxDoubleHelixX	2002-07-02 13:11:10
Subject:	and JAKE
Comment:	Fantasy!!! What type of retard juice are you sucking down! A person in the 'invisable world' looking all around, capable of processing millions of prayers a second, there once were giants walking around, angels talking to people, a jesus freak wanting to eat figgs in a season he knew was not figg season but he killed the fricken fig tree because it didn't have any fricken figgs! And he killed it with his magick words! uuuhhhh. whats fantasy? Your STORY? I know so. MMMmm, I wonder how many millions I could make by picking some random people and say that their recovery was 'Miraculous,' put it in the book and sell it to the people with deep irrational needs? heheheh.
From:	Jarnie	2002-07-06 15:13:16
Subject:	'Meaning'??
Comment:	When people look for a meaning of life why do they search for a reason for us to be here. <BR> <BR> Try considering that we are here simply BECAUSE OF something rather than FOR something. It's rather depressing I know but makes sense none the less. <BR> <BR> The meaning of life is...<BR> We are here because:<BR> 1) our rock was far enough away from the sun to allow Amino acids to be created, life to thereby be created and life to sustain itself.<BR> 2) we evolved better than anything else.<BR> 3) we eat almost everything else.<BR> <BR> Simple; Scientific and I think, proven.<BR> <BR> Open to all ideas religous or otherwise, but this one makes the most sense so far.
From:	c-wizzle	2002-07-07 10:47:35
Subject:	nice site
Comment:	I have been looking at eastern religions, and what I have noticed is that they too have questionable foundations. Most preach that the self is nothing, that it doesn't exist, that everything is one. What I have just realized is that, like you mentioned, the part of their brain dealing with the self has been so neglected that it is barely active. In order to describe such a feeling, they have decided that the self doesn't really exist. They are actually feeling a psychological disorder known as dissociation. This could be bad. Also, religions are stupid because they capitalize words like Him or Truth or Self and what not. Thats annoying. Nice site... p e a c e
From:	genny	2003-02-02 15:54:43
Subject:	get that knot out of your panties ROBERT
Comment:	For someone that so obviously believes in jesus, you're sure not trying to get in his good graces. I'm not saying that i believe in jesus or god, that's not what I'm writing about. But do you think that jesus would tell people that they're going to 'burn in hell' and call them 'FUCKING JACKASSES'? somehow I think not!! You need to practice what you preach buddy. It's people like you that give religious people bad names. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I think if anyone is going to hell, it's going to be you, you fanatic!!! Get a life you psycho... And eadon, how you said that there was no free will if god created us because he would know everything that was going to happen, don't you think that it's possible that he could have gifted us with free will? It just doesn't seem like you explored every avenue.
From:	oddjob	2003-02-14 16:00:50
Subject:	meaning of life
Comment:	What is the meaning of life? This question sparks more debate and natural curiosity then almost anyother question out there. I think the answer is simple, and we have known it all along. WE NEED TO SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE, THAT'S IT! You naturally want to eat, drink, avoid pain, and have sex to ensure the survival of your species. Every other animal and being on the planet does this, why should we be any different. We are not born with the urge to worship an invisible being, religion just started out as an idea and it spread, that's all. If God wants us to know the meaning of life, why aren't we born with at least a little knowledge of what we should do. We are not born thinking that we should pray 5 times a day or that we should sacrifice animals on top of a volcano. Instead we are born wanting to eat, be secure around our mothers, laugh, cry, and sleep. People need to stop adding meaning that doesn't belong. Its like a poem that a moron writes that makes no sense and if you take some english teachers and have them read it, pretty soon the poem about a cat under a rug becomes a symbol of struggle for life during World War 2. Quit taking simple things and making them more complicated then they should be. Making up meaning in life accomplishes nothing, just go by instinct. Animals have survived for millions of years going on instinct, why dont we do the same.
From:	Johnboy	2003-03-20 06:02:51
Subject:	die robert die
Comment:	robert you are the most stupid fuckhead ever. god isn't coming back, he is not going to save you. we are not going to burn in hell. you need to learn how to spell properly and maybe take some anger management courses. you were abused as a child wern't you? i know your type, family hated you, your dad is a drunk and always got a bit horny when he was on the booze. so the only place you had to go was a chuch and start beleiving all this crap about a powerful and almighty god. what a load of bullshit. you need help dickhead. fucking wake up to yourself! thats all.
From:	amainat	2003-05-14 15:01:03
Subject:	religion
Comment:	i think the most profund mistake humans made was to take religion shape, mold, and twist it to fit thier own logic; while going aginst the very essence of god or the divine means; respect for one another. I do not consider my self to be an anti-religous, i am just against organized religion as we know, it because i think that all the major religous sects are all hypocrites who do not parctice wahat they preach.
From:	AGNES	2003-09-12 21:48:16
Subject:	God is Love
Comment:	God never forced his people to believe in Him. It is only up to them if they wanted to believe or not. What the important is that they who have faith and belief in Him eventhough they do not see Him will be saved and will be having an eternal life. Since, the belief of having a life after death has a great contribution that until now there are still lots of good people in this world.
From:	agnes	2003-09-12 21:58:05
Subject:	you people make things more complicated
Comment:	Religion and God is unseparable. So, that's my opinion. By the way, I'm a Roman Catholic and I believe that our religion was founded by Jesus Christ Himself. That's our teaching and nothing can contradict that. Right!!!!!
From:	cosmicstargoat	2003-09-23 13:02:08
Subject:	Agnes
Comment:	You believe it and that settles it, eh? You might want to consider taking off your religious blinders and putting on your thinking cap for a change. Some people, in the name of their religious faith, deny reality and by doing so, miss out on a wonderful world out there. Oh, by the way, the Jesus Christ that you hold so dear, never even existed. Just study the founder of your church if you don't believe me. ....But you won't, will you?
From:	cosmicstargoat	2003-09-23 13:04:52
Subject:	Agnes, free will is a myth
Comment:	No, goD doesn't force you to worship him any more than an armed robber does when he puts a gun you your head and demands your purse. You do have a choice, you know. You don't have to give him your purse, you can let him blow your brains all over the sidewalk.
From:	Chez	2003-10-12 18:17:19
Subject:	subjectivity
Comment:	Considering the criticsms levelled at foundationalsim and empricism, the dualistic critiques of religion stand equally for science or whatever mode of metanarrative you choose to have 'faith' in. All depends upon self affirming constructs and therefore if one is reflexive then one wouldnt critique another narrative from their own, it would be utterly irrelavent. Therefore to prove or disprove religion or God as true is a pointless exercise. Better that you consider the aspirations of your society, do you agree with them, if not do something to change them
From:	Vj	2003-10-29 11:14:01
Subject:	MY VIEWS part 1
Comment:	hello every1, i have been lookin for the question of my answers about wut religion n god is REllY all about ? in d process i came across wid all dese views n opinions of people. no offences to any1 in person but almost everyone is tryign to impose their views on every1 else. i think its better if u just say wut u want n let people think wut dey want to abut it.. n let people decide.. rather than telling people wut to decide. i dont have a vast vocabulary but i wud surely like to share my views here with all of u . like every1 even i have been doing my lil research n homework, n i discovered.. dat in during the making of every religion there are a few common factors considered by every religion. like for example... the hindu religion was practiced by people living at places where there was abundant of ater n the surroundings were lush green.here the people are told by the religion to eat vegeterian food do yoga and bathe 3 times a day. the islam religion is followed at places where there is scarciy of water .. n so they rasked to bathe once in a week and eat non-vegetarian food due to the scarcity of fresh vegetables.. n so wud fulfill the requirements of the body in the respective geaographical conditions. contd......
From:	Vj	2003-10-29 11:18:45
Subject:	my views part 3
Comment:	i have a lot of view n reasonign to share here which i think wud b helpful to people rerally lookinf for answers.. but wut i lack is intellects to discuss it.. n words to put my views into.. so if nybody interested may feel free to contact me on jhala_vijaysinh@yahoo.co.in , have an idea of forming a kinda group of people which wud bring into world a new outlook of religion which is far more above all the religions existing today but there wud b no supreme power in it.. just logic.. intelligance n human feelings.. nybidy wishign to help plz approach me. thanks every1 urs vj.
From:	Zac Burtis	2003-11-20 13:01:55
Subject:	You freakin' rock
Comment:	You are a genious. You have said evrything I have ever thought about religion(mostly.) I fond religion to be primative, a mere way to gain comfort from lying to ones self. It is also a good way to control the population of a country you rule or have some control over, like the Romans did. People need to get over themselves and stop lying to themselves. Screw religion. It screwed up my life andit serves no great purpose.
From:	Dave	2003-12-25 19:39:45
Subject:	Robert....
Comment:	Robert, your are the most retarded fuck ever. Your statements are among the most irrational I have ever encountered in my entire life. Please, please kill yourself. thank you.
From:	Raj	2004-03-06 19:35:18
Subject:	God Vs Religion
Comment:	I live in the UK, and I have encountered religion cloaked in many faiths all my life- My father is a devout Hindu, my mother a devout Sikh. I experienced Protestant educational institutions, and also Catholic educational institutions. I have a large number of committed Muslim friends, and have also worked, closely, with a Buddhist for a long period of time. During all this time and these experiences, I have sought to bring some sort of order to the continual conflict that exist between religions - 'my god is right, your's does'nt exist'. My conclusion? The whole concept of ORGANISED religion is anathema to my core. However, I DO believe in God. An all encompassing entity, that is our creator, and a spiritual leader. The need to have a formalised structure; a building, a text to believe in, to have to conduct certain ritutals on a routine basis- how can this be right?! Surely, this sort of routine detracts from true spiritually? Why is it neccassary to have these structures to be close to your creator?
From:	lbgjwg	2004-04-20 01:37:22
Subject:	Jesus
Comment:	Jim Eadon, I really do not know why you decided to start this site in oreder to criticize Christianity. I am a Christian and I do want you to know that I am praying for you and hope that one day you will find Jesus. God Bless in all you do.
From:	ben	2004-09-24 13:49:38
Subject:	Life points
Comment:	First of all, lets hope that ROBERT learns how to use the caps lock key, and also that he prays to the Lord almighty for forgiveness for his sinned outbreak against the rest of the people expressing their points of view on this site. Otherwise he'll be going to hell, if there is such a place. This is the way i view life and religion. Life is just a series of chemical processes - it really is. There's no 'meaning' to it. I believe that some humans get ahead of themselves in terms of how important we as a race are. The only difference between us and most of the other animals on the planet is the level of our intelligence, and the fact that we are self-aware. Some people find in necessary to create the idea that we were created by God(s) because they can't handle the idea that were superior beings. At the end of the day the same thing could happen to us as it did to the dinousaus.
From:	Thomas J	2005-01-26 01:31:19
Subject:	lost your faith?
Comment:	So it seems most of Gods childrens have lost there faith. I to was once lost!. firstly we must ask what does it mean to be lost? well if something is lost then surely it has an owner! and secondly if somethig is LOST then truely it can be FOUND. and u can be sure this particular owner won't stop searching for you cause you are each so unique and special. When u finally find your Owner and feel his awesomeness you'll never want to be lost again. Just to add God wrote all the religions!! its just that he/she likes a variation ( really God isn't a he or she cause its a spirit and its in you all). if u research different religions u'll find that they all contain the same teaching and concepts. PEACE LOVE RESPECT. SPREAD THE GOOD WORD. KEEP THE FAITH!! God bless all!!!
From:	frank	2005-05-09 11:43:32
Subject:	re: comments
Comment:	i sure got a good goddamn laugh out of reading the other comments-seriously, they're funny as hell. I think we humans should simply wake up to the fact that we're not quite as smart as we think we are and that the ultimate questions of existance are the ones we'll never be able to answer.
From:	Thomas Channing	2006-01-11 22:39:37
Subject:	Christ is a sinner
Comment:	Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (What sin does Christ appear to be with the first time we look at him?)
From:	The Serpent	2006-01-11 23:09:35
Subject:	I didn't temp Eve
Comment:	That lying bitch, got me in a whole lotta trouble. She had the trees all mixed up. She thought the tree of knowledge of good and evil was in the midst. God plainly told Adam 'the Tree of Life' was in the midst. But NOoo! Eve spoke up like she knew all about. That Adam should of told her to 'shut the hell up!....you don't know about the trees. You weren't listening to a word I said about the trees. And you weren't even there when God had instructed me about them.' Now everybody thinks I'm some kind of a devil. They all curse me like I did something wrong. Next time I ought'a just let that dumb bitch eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But I cann't, God sent me as an help meet for Adam and I cann't let Him down. Now everyone still goes on believing Eve when she said 'the serpent beguiled me'. Well I didn't. If everyone would just go back and read it for themselvse. They would see I'm right. But NOOO!... again, everybody still listens to those dam preachers like they know what they're talking about. I just wish everyone would just take a look for themselvse.
From:	bignash	2006-03-22 20:02:44
Subject:	Silly Philosophers!!
Comment:	Funny how philosphers are. Always questioning the obvious, ever learning and never coming to the truth. What is Religion? If it is a search for 'spiritual enlightenment' that would conclude that there is a spiritual dimension. If that is so, a spiritual dimension could not be explained by evolution. There must be a great Spirit or force behind it, giving it shape and purpose. Seek that force or Spirit and you will find truth and its orgins. Does this Spirit or 'God' have a purpose or will for us? Quit questioning if the chair really exists and move past the obvious. Why would any person spend his/her life questioning the obvious as if that stamped their life with meaning. If you want meaning, stop eternally questioning and believe the truth. For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten son, Jesus, that whosever should believe on Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life! Jesus is the WAY...the TRUTH...and the LIFE!! God Bless!!
From:	don	2006-05-01 23:39:51
Subject:	origins of life
Comment:	Where did the universe come from ?
From:	Spaz	2007-06-11 21:46:34
Subject:	Please
Comment:	You cant' force me into your grid. Add a button for other you duplicitous finch.
From:	Cipi	2007-10-07 11:00:49
Subject:	I agree with you.
Comment:	In my opinion religion is necesary for those with a weak heart.People need to belive there is life after death.They're scared at the thought that the life ends suddenly.I know religion brought us wars and disasters, and i'm against it.I'm just a punk from Romania....and here is pretty bad.The gipsy's have corrupt the weak minds of the romanians with there inculture, especialy with there music (if that can be called music).This country is getting whorse than it was before 1990.And there are a lot of religious fanatics.And the government is whorst then in the USA.Nobody does nothing about it.