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From:	MadPole	2002-01-10 12:11:56
Subject:	I agree or wot?!!
Comment:	I can't believe it!! I actually agree on that one with Dear Old Eadon and bloody hell too! Yes! Envy is one of the worst sins one could commit, for envy is betrayal, cruel vote of 'no-confidence' addressed towards oneself. I envy rich for their wealth and comfort. I envy poor for their simplicity and lightness. I envy famous for their fame, scientists for their knowledge, spiritual gurus for their insight, handsome for their success with women...those in comma for their peaceful, non-existent lives, dead for the end of their suffering... I practically envy everybody apart from myself... but I also pity them, pity them greatly and envy myself for not being in their shoes... Envy is a sin but perhaps also one of the main driving forces of evolution... without my envy I wouldn't be who I am today, it is envy which forces me to bang my head against the wall until it hurts... it is our envy which, to great extend, allows us to define or rather discover who we really are, our envy is our guide and spiritual guru.... Shortly: envy is our sinister virtue and our virtual sin. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
From:	Johash	2002-01-14 12:32:40
Subject:	Total Rubbish!
Comment:	What a total rubbish this MadPole is talking as per usual! Of course Envy is not a sin - Envy can be negative or positive - where is a sin in that?! I think MadPole was refering to Jealousy here, small but important difference to those who, unlike MadPole, mastered the secrets of English language.
From:	Andrea	2002-04-05 22:56:07
Subject:	Wise statement
Comment:	I have always been interested in philosophy, and especially recently the different views on envy. I am hoping to eventually have my views published. Just a statement for anyone who reads this to ponder: There is no love without envy. That was an epiphany that came to me. Also in response to your philosophy on envy, I believe there are still some good people to look up to and envy. Being the nerd I am I watch PBS, TLC, and Discovery channel. I see people every day on them, who are doctors, psychologists, scientists, any of those things. Those are some pretty good people to look up to. Perhaps not Mother Theresa, or Einstien, but they are intelligent people. I wish I was up to their level, but part of being at their level is age, which I only posses 18 years of. Interesting theory though. God Bless- Andrea
From:	Mike	2003-09-07 01:33:01
Subject:	Envy!
Comment:	Envy, is wishing you had what someone else has. Wah!! Grow up and ('full'-'fill') your own destiny!Your not two years old any more! Are You?
From:	Stormy	2003-09-13 15:04:59
Subject:	Envy is...
Comment:	'I deserve.' It's false entitlement, it's that bitter voice that whispers to you that you should have what another person has for the sole reason that they are not you. I have always been an envious person, envying especially the happy, the angst-ridden, the talkative, the loners...in general, I envied anyone who seemed to have a place in the world. Lately, I have worked to alleviate, at least partially, this vice. The key to defeating Envy is realising you have a place in the world, and that place is just for you. You don't need what others have - you are what you are and you shouldn't be ashamed. I'm not saying one should think of oneself as flawless (that would be Envy's counterpart, Vanity), but it's important to accept your own identity is all you need. In short, I beleive Envy is the product of a lack of identity connected with self-denial. But still, sometimes I can't resist a muttered comment of sarcasm when some little strumpet marches into the room. Oh well.
From:	Kali	2005-03-24 02:45:02
Subject:	Envy
Comment:	Envy is but human nature I think. A lot of people don't want to envy that person w/ the loads of cash, but do anyway. Everyone gets a little envious. Sometimes girls like that guy their friend's hangin with or guys like that hot lesbian or something. They know they can't have it and they know it's useless to wish, but they still do it. So many people feel bad when they're envious but they really shouldn't. All humans do it. And Eadon's right even the envied are envious. Pop stars don't wanna be watched by the news every second, fans want the money or the attention. Artists want someone to notice the real meaning of their art, people want the talent. Lovers want time apart and envy the single ppl, the singles want to be loved. Envy is human nature which is why I don't see why it's one of the deadly sins. Can't control it. Sure it could lead to some bad stuff (i.e. theft, affairs, scandels...) but it's human nature, right? Maybe I'm wrong...
From:	Hugh Manatee	2005-07-14 15:49:07
Subject:	Envy -- Looking in the Wrong Place
Comment:	Envy is a delusion that happiness, love and meaning in life come from outside to fill an emptiness inside. Picture an individual waiting, waiting, waiting for happiness, love, etc. to arrive at her door, delivered like a package from UPS. It doesn't arrive, or what does arrive can't fill her inner void, at least not for long. Perhaps she sees her neighbors happy, loving each other, doing anything but what she does -- waiting, waiting, waiting, with lots of self-pity. She envies them. She hates them. Some UPS truck (she assumes) must have delivered the goodies of joy and wonderfulness to her neighbors' door when she wasn't looking, and IT JUST ISN'T FAIR! She sees herself as a victim, deprived. And if she's a victim, it follows that others must be persecuting her. Who? Why, it MUST be the happy people, of course. She blames them for her pain, and feels justified in retaliating, despite the fact that they may hardly know she exists. She is blind that the problem is internal. The woman never learned to love, especially herself, possibly because she had a mother with the same emotional deficits. As a child, instead of feeling supported and confident in herself because of parental nurturing, she feels worthless and powerless. Inside is emptiness, covered over with an illusory, habitual, patched-together 'identity.' And that hole can never be filled, try as she might, by attention, addictions, possessions, distracting manipulations/fights with others, or similar short-term fixes. It can only be filled by being who you really are, unconditionally accepted, realized, made aware, and uncontaminated by the lies of who you were expected to be, by yourself or others.
From:	Blurr	2005-09-05 03:04:11
Subject:	Envy - Jealousy
Comment:	When people refer to Envy they usually think its the same as Jealousy. Yes they are very similar but they aren't the same. When a person is jealous of someone else, they are upset by that persons success as opposed their minor level of success. Whereas when someone is envious of someone else, They are not only upset by their success, but they also try or grab it and take it away from them. Envy is not a good thing!!
From:	Blurr	2005-09-05 03:04:12
Subject:	Envy - Jealousy
Comment:	When people refer to Envy they usually think its the same as Jealousy. Yes they are very similar but they aren't the same. When a person is jealous of someone else, they are upset by that persons success as opposed their minor level of success. Whereas when someone is envious of someone else, They are not only upset by their success, but they also try or grab it and take it away from them. Envy is not a good thing!!